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Phil Hill
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quote: Will Kutler
I thought you were discussing WOODWORKING!
Ya know Will, I thought the same thing when I 1st saw this thread.

I was going to say how much I liked my Craftsman 2 HP router and how it helps in my woodworking hobby.

But then I got enlightened and posted accordingly. [beer] [Razz] [Big Grin]

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
Once a Linksys router caused nightmarish problems with a ticketing system install... stations randomly dropping off line, putting in a new netgear router solved the problem.
People are actually relying on xDSL and consumer crap hardware for their ticketing systems? That's insane. For any commercial setting I wouldn't use anything less than a 3Com, Cisco, HP, Bay Networks, or highend Dell or Linksys (24+ port models) switch. If they need WAN connectivity, add an ISDN line and a Cisco 801 (or 802) ISDN router.

I don't know how far along the US is in abandoning cash (I know Canada, unfortunately, is the "leader" in this area), but losing debit card processing equates to closing your doors here. Relying on xDSL and cheap hardware isn't worth it, even short term.

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Richard Hamilton
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Daryl,
Most theaters in the States use Automaticket machines. It is a very reliable and proven piece of hardware! [Wink]

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David Buckley
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Echo Daryl - on the money and beat me to it.

Although I've had some bad luck with LinkSys wireless, their crap isn't generally worse than anyone else's consumer grade crap, everyone has had the bottom of the pile label from time to time. I've got a soft spot for NetGear, based on the fact I used to earn my money being a SynOptics / Wellfleet expert, and this collection of bedfellows became Bay Networks, which then addded NetGear as their el-cheapo line stuff, and then Bay got bought by Nortel. I've had good and bad results with NetGear.

My current home ADSL router is a Draytek Vigor ADSL gateway, followed by a Zyxel Zywall, neither of which have let me down in any way, and are well regarded as cheap stuff goes. This has been working solidly for a few years now.

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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quote:
Most theaters in the States use Automaticket machines. It is a very reliable and proven piece of hardware!
No shit. Except for ticket machines with built in debit functions utilizing ultra slow POTS dial-up connections, most only have (one type or another) ethernet interfaces for connectivity.

The reliability, or lack thereof, of your ticket machines has nothing to do with the reliability of your data network infrastructure.

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Frank Dubrois
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Belkin...knowledgable support and the router was $20, wireless G, not a bad deal all the way around.

D-Link went poo poo on me. Never again.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote:
Most theaters in the States use Automaticket machines. It is a very reliable and proven piece of hardware!

I have perhaps three customers that use Automatickets.... those that are not on puters tear them manually.... there is about four or five customers out there that tear them manually so about 8 out of about 700 don't use computers. oops there are a few cash regester people out there.... so lets add 3 more in to the 8 for 11 out of 700.

I am not sure if Automaticket is even in buisness any more......a google didn't turn up anything but used ones. Its got to the point about 6 or 7 years ago that computer ticketing became less expensive than a new Automaticket 3 bay. Automatickets are a pain in the ass to repair. The big thing about puters that cutomres like is that they can do all your B.O. reports for you.

Mark

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Will Kutler
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Hi Phil

What kind of woodworking do you enjoy?

Cheers

K

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Phil Hill
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Will, I've done and enjoy everything from house framing to precision work such as cabinet making. I love woodworking...it's a great stress reliever.

While I'm fascinated with metal work, I just can't get a handle on operating those darn vertical mills like a Bridgeport. So I leave that art to those that know how to do it. Even though I have no problem with a Worrell-type gear head, those mill tables drive me to try that I-30 stuff!

I guess I just enjoy working with "wood"... Ummm "both" types. [Wink] [Eek!] [evil]

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Will Kutler
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Hi Phil

I love woodworking also.
http://www.woodworkerssource.net/
Take a look at They're located out of Phoenix and Tucson. Supply lots of books, tools, exotic hardwoods and veneers and finishes.

One can really gain an appreciation for craftsmanship after having lived in or visited England or mainland Europe.

The castles in England have furnishings that would make your jaw drop, and the antique furniture and silver shops in Oxford are awesome.

I guess I'm a sucker for exotic hardwoods, veneers and finishes that are beyond expensive. Not to mention details like hand cut dovetails, inlaying, marquetry, leafing, finishing, et al.

There was a show on PBS (forgot the name) but this guy was doing all kinds of precision craftsmanship using nothing but basic antique handtools and a basic workbench and vice. The work he does is amazing.

You might also enjoy what goes into the making of custom pool cues. Look up Ron Kilby on the net.

Cheers

K

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Tim Reed
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Okay, so is the concensus of opinion still favoring Netgear routers at this late date? We had a D-Link, and it just completely stopped working with the cable modem.

I've also got the problem that our cable provider (RCN) absolutely will not do anything to help you get a router working on their line, so I need something that's going to involve the least amount of hassle to setup. The D-Link took forever to get going, and I'm not even sure what we finally did to make it work in the first place.

RCN wants to put their own router on, so they can charge an extra $49 a month, or whatever it is, for every additional computer we connect! [Mad]

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Mike Heenan
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Our netgear router that I ended up buying is still running great after all this time.

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Tim Reed
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Thanks, Mike. What model do you have? Is it connected to a cable modem? How's the speed as compared to a direct connection?

After doing some quick research, I've noticed equipment with this 802.11n standard. Is that superceding 802.11g? Anyone know about this?

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Joe Redifer
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I've had Linksys routers fail on me twice, so I tried a D-Link as that was all Circuit City or Best Buy had besides Linksys. Big mistake. D-Link sucks. Not only that, but all of the ethernet connections were on the FRONT of the router. For a home router that is extremely annoying and quite useless. I hope D-Link goes out of business and all of their employees catch on fire. So I took it back and got the Linksys BFRFRES41 or whatever it is... it's the one that just failed for the OP. Anyway it's been working fine for me for years. I also have a Linksys switch that has worked perfectly. I used to have a D-Link (I think) hub long, long ago and that was retarded.

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Phil Hill
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I have Netgear WGT-624 wireless routers on a DSL modem at home and on a cable modem at my parents for a few years. Have had NO problem with either installation. Easy to set up and they just keep working.

I tried D-Link and LinkSys and they were PITA hardware that always failed...I junked them, smashed them, and threw them over my hillside. [Smile]

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