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Author Topic: Take A Look At The Audio Barn Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-09-2006 02:26 AM                     What an outdated and archaic turntable he has. It still uses a needle that actually touches the surface of the record. He needs to upgrade to a Laser Turntable, like this one. http://www.ohgizmo.com/2006/02/12/wheels-of-light/  |  IP: Logged Allison Parsons Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 630 From: East Peoria, IL Registered: Oct 2004 posted 03-09-2006 02:48 AM                        Mike, NICE! Too bad I would rather buy a car for $10,000 than plop 10 G's on a record player.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 03-09-2006 03:41 AM                     ..bummer, and no open reel tape machine hooked up to this system. That would definitely sound excellent! (BAH, on CD's - analog tape recordings can definitely send CD's home to their momma crying..lol) Wonder, if he would try the BOSE system by placing the speakers to where they would fire to the back wall on an angle, then the reflection would bounce from that back wall then reflect to the side walls for the second bounce to go back to the center of the room. (if he didn't have that "hump" and windows in the middle of the room..) Speakers firing straight out can sound pretty course if not tuned right. Reflected sound has such a better ambience effect to where the sound isn't directional and can fill the room up so much better. His seating triangle is WAY off course .. he's too close to where he dead center (in the second set of speakers for the upper pictures are a completely different set of speakers and his seating triangle is better, but still too close). Well, at least he has a VPI record cleaning machine. Wonder, if he has some dedicated mono cartridges there in his collection to play mono records. I've seen turntables hit the price of a new home - base made of marble or granite, platters of solid brass or solid plexiglass of 6 inches thick, air bearing tonearms...it can go on forever for good analog sound from the vinyl surface of a direct to disc, or a session tape mastered record. Yea, those laser turntables aren't completely cured of their problems since they have 5 lasers to track the groove - and two lasers track the area of the groove right above where the ball of the needle rests in the groove-where there is no needle wear. The other two are lateral land guidance lasers and the single laser track the center of the groove. Still an experimental device for the audiophile fanatics... - Monte  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 03-09-2006 04:37 AM                        A friend who does professional audio restoration has one of those laser turntables. They're actually quite problematic, because the lasers are so sensitive as to pick up dust and contaminants on the record surface which a conventional stylus ignores. His verdict is that unless (i) your original record is so worn and/or fragile (e.g. an acetate disc which has been damaged by previous playing with a steel needle) that a conventional turntable won't play it at all, or (ii) you're also prepared to invest in some seriously high end audio software (e.g. Cedar or NoNoise, both at around $20k) plus record cleaning hardware, the audio output really won't be much use.  |  IP: Logged Bill Enos Film God Posts: 2081 From: Richmond, Virginia, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 03-09-2006 06:37 AM                     I wonder what he listens to. About half of the crap out there is optimized on a $59. boom box. No system weaknesses?  |  IP: Logged Mark Lensenmayer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1605 From: Upper Arlington, OH Registered: Sep 1999 posted 03-09-2006 07:13 AM                     Regarding the Cardas speaker cable, it looks like it isn't even good enough for the "very highest price" speakers. I can't imagine how much cable for speakers the cost over $140,000! My favorite audio item is the $485 Silver Rock Signature Knob. For all of that money, you could travel all over the world and hear the best musicians live! Oh, here's a reference to Cable that is $23,500 for 8'!  |  IP: Logged Steve Scott Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1300 From: Minneapolis, MN Registered: Sep 2000 posted 03-09-2006 10:36 AM                     I was expecting to see an iPod shuffle somewhere in there, dang  |  IP: Logged Chris Hipp Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1462 From: Mesquite, Tx (east of Dallas) Registered: Jul 2003 posted 03-10-2006 10:22 AM                     http://www.jenalabs.com/ Judging by the picture on this website I would have to guess that this guy is either the owner on 'jenalabs' or he is some sucker that let himself get talked into buying the system. http://www.jenalabs.com/pages/cableprice.html That is by far the most expensive cable I have ever seen. It must be the best.  |  IP: Logged Mark Lensenmayer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1605 From: Upper Arlington, OH Registered: Sep 1999 posted 03-10-2006 11:18 AM                     I loved the JenaLabs site, especially how using "LN2" makes cd's play better, dvd's look better and cable do cable stuff better. Here is a description of the wonders of cryogenic-alyzing stuff: quote: When conducting an electric signal, treated wire and formed metallic parts will produce less micro-diode-effect noise, less impurity inclusion field disturbance and less 'slow field' transverse energy generation. The result is a cable or electrical device that is quieter in noise floor and more revealing of subtle musical nuances. Cryogenic Treatment  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 03-10-2006 02:02 PM                     quote: He needs to upgrade to a Laser Turntable, The ELP Laser turntable actually sucks major ass. It requires absolutelt MINT, PRISTINE CLEAN vinyl to play properly. Even they tiniest bit of dust or minute scratchs will cause it to mistrack horribly. Also you can only play black vinyl on it, no custom colors or the like. -Aaron  |  IP: Logged Steven J Hart Master Film Handler Posts: 282 From: WALES, ND, USA Registered: Mar 2004 posted 03-10-2006 03:21 PM                        I noted the website hosting this photo tour is "AudioAsylum ". Anyone willing to pay $8500 for a three foot pair of RCA cables needs to be institutionalized. Steve  |  IP: Logged Sam Graham AKA: "The Evil Sam Graham". Wackiness ensues. Posts: 1431 From: Waukee, IA Registered: Dec 2004 posted 03-10-2006 08:56 PM                        quote: Mike Blakesley I think it's significant that he only has ONE chair in his listening room. Probably doesn't allow the wife in there. (If in fact he really has a wife.) See, the one chair gives it all away. Obviously, it's the Maxell tape guy. He needs all this equipment to optimize his high bias XLII recordings, which of course sound better than the original source. Seriously, my take on high-end audio or video rooms is this...If it makes you happy, it's worth it. Even if pieces of it are technically sub-par or placebo.  |  IP: Logged Will Kutler Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1506 From: Tucson, AZ, USA Registered: Feb 2001 posted 03-10-2006 09:20 PM                     I love vinyl. Between excellent valve (tube) amps and vinyl on an excellent turntable, there is just a sound warmth, depth and ambivance that is just not there with cd's! I really can't expalin it...its something one must listen to in order to understand. Interesting about the laser turntables, I heard about those many years ago and was just going to ask y'all about them. There are still some very expensive high-end turntables on the markert. But I think that a classic, reliable and ole standard turntable is the ole Techniques SL-1200MKII. And no, I DESPISE RAP & "SCRATCHING"  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-10-2006 09:52 PM                        Since there's only 1 sweet spot in any listening room, having more than 1 chair would be blasphemy. In the late 80s I had a sort of entry-level high-end setup: VPI HW-19-II turntable, Eminent Technology air-bearing tonearm, AudioQuest cartridge, conrad-johnson tube preamp, Audio Research tube power amp, and Vandersteen Model 2Ci speakers (bi-wired but not bi-amped). Oh, and I used KimberCable speaker wire! I arrived at that setup after trying several different solid state and tube preamps and power amps. I learned that there are indeed very noticeable differences in the "sound" of different electronics. I can't attribute the differences to anything specific. Maybe there were incompatibilities between the cartridge and some preamps, or between the speaker load and some power amps. In any case, the equipment I finally settled on sounded pretty damned good as a system. I never could hear any difference between various speaker cables though. Vinyl records often contain "magic". I've never heard a CD do the same thing.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-10-2006 10:41 PM                     If only the guy ran double speaker wires! Our hero speaks out  |  IP: Logged

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