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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 07-21-2006 05:56 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Interesting camera. Send me the left and right full-size/full-color scans if you have them and I'll give you a full color 3D analglyph picture without compression. Compression of analglyphs result in artifacting of the red eye, making things look nasty. That's why when I do 3D my pics stay uncompressed every step of the way.

JPEG sucks, and so does JPEG2000. Anyone who likes JPEG2000 should get chronic diarrhea.

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Hillary Charles
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 - posted 07-22-2006 09:16 AM      Profile for Hillary Charles   Email Hillary Charles   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Joe, I sent you each scan separately. The files should be big enough to make it work better. Have fun!

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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 07-22-2006 01:52 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
OK here is my version of Hillary's wedding pic. Red eye = left.

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That camera is pretty neat, but I think I like the dual camera (or single camera moved between shots) setup a little better since you have more control over depth and can exaggerate it if ya like... though that way is more of a pain in the ass.

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Hillary Charles
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That is awesome! Great job, Joe!

I like the Realist because of the assured simultaneous exposures (and I'm too cheap to seek out two matched camera/lens sets), and of all the accessories (old and new) and support materials available for the format. However, the narrower image has always been an issue. I personally would like it a little wider. Some people have converted certain models to produce wider images. And there's a company that twins regular 35mm cameras so that full-size 35mm stereo frames can be produced. If anyone watches the production diaries for "King Kong," Peter Jackson can be seen photographing a pile of fake camel poop with one of these.

Whenever I'm doing still subjects, or when I need to change the interocular distance, I use my Nikon and a slide bar. However, I just came back from a wedding in which I took about two rolls with my Realist. Whatever works best. I'd really like one of those RBT cameras though...

Thanks for the great work. When I finally get PS, may I pick your brain to learn your anaglyph technique?

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Frank Angel
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quote: Michael Coate
The Internet has made it too easy for people to make "bold" statements that they might otherwise not make face to face.
One, I don't see that as a "bold" statement. Two, there seems to be an assumption here that I wouldn't make that statement to either of them face to face; that assumption is incorrect. And not for nothing as we say here in Brooklyn, I don't think there is anything bold about saying two people who seem to be hell-bent on denegrading and slamming motion picture film at every opportunity, the very medium that has given them the monetary resources to get where they are today, that such individuals are an industry joke, at least to the exhibition industry.

Funny they didn't think video was the way to go when they wanted millions of potential viewers to shell out $10 a pop to see their films. They could have easily opted for made-for-tv movies, yet both chose film while out of the other side of their mouths tell of the heavenly day when that aweful film which does nothing but mar their great works will be a thing of the past, being replaced entirely with digital -- the sooner the better and good ridance to it. And now it's not only digital, but 3D that's gonna put nails in film's coffin and give the world what it didn't have before, a way to really appreciate the filmmaker's art. To me, this is a joke, and they are the butt.

And if that's slander or libel, I plead guilty. I simply have no respect for a filmmaker who trashes the medium on which the greatest works of our truly indiginous American art-form were created over the last Century. And I will tell either of them that any time, anywhere.

quote: Michael Coate
One troublesome aspect to the bashing of Lucas, Cameron, Spielberg, insert name of any successful filmmaker, etc. is that it seems like one of those biting-the-hand-that-feeds things if it comes from an exhibitor since those filmmakers have been responsible more than any for putting butts in seats year after year, film after film.
This is a two way street. They can only put those butts in seats year after year if exhibitors invest in and maintain motion picture theatres for the filmmakers to play their films in. Without those seats, they would be making made-for-TV-Movies, Pay-per-view and direct to DVD releases. If Mr. Cameron thinks he could have mustered 60 million in the first weekend of TITANIC without those theatres and without those film projectors, he should have tried selling his movie to Time-Warner and let them put it on cable.

Seems that their rhetoric point squarely to the fact that they have distain for film and exhibitors and would happily release day-and-date if they think it is more profitable to do so, regardless of the impact on exhibition. Seems to me that anyone who thinks the digivangelists filmmakers think of themselves as partners with exhibitors or are friends of exhibition, are a tad naive.

That's my story and I am sticking to it.

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Mike Schindler
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I don't think that Cameron and Lucas are pushing digital as a way to get rid of film because it's evil. They're pushing digital because it is the best way for them to present their work. The reason why they've supported film up until this point is because it was the best format out there. Realistically speaking, that's no longer the case.

If nothing else, these two have pushed movie technology as far as possible throughout their careers. Why should they stop now?

And maybe I'm naive, but I don't think it's about money. It's about being cool. When TITANIC came out, Cameron paid for 70mm prints out of his own pocket because he knew that that was the coolest way to show the movie. He could be making millions of dollars a year by directing movies like AQUAMAN, but instead he has chosen to spend the last decade developing 3D technology, shooting documentaries, and pimping the space program. He's just cool like that.

Movies > Money

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Joe Redifer
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quote: Hillary Charles
When I finally get PS, may I pick your brain to learn your anaglyph technique?
Sure.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Mike Schindler
The reason why they've supported film up until this point is because it was the best format out there. Realistically speaking, that's no longer the case.

K Mike... Show me a digital shooting system as good as 5/65.... and lets not forget there is 15/70. SHDTV is not even close to either of these yet.

Mark

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Mike Schindler
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Mark, I said realistically.

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Ron Curran
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5/35 isn't so shoddy either, compared to DC.

However, can we realistically expect people to wear glasses for regular theatrical features? They gave up on that in the 50s and accepted CinemaScope instead.

Till someone invents 3D without glasses it might remain a recurring novelty, except for IMAX (an occasional event for audiences).

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Jeremy Jorgenson
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quote: Joshua Waaland
Stars Wars Ep.I is due for re-release in 3-D next year.
hmm, interesting. [Smile]

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Joe Redifer
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No one ever picked my brain for my anaglyph technique.

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Hillary Charles
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Sorry 'bout that Joe. [uhoh] I must sheepishly admit that not too long after my question, I learned of the Stereo Photo Maker freeware. It's just so dang easy, I forgot about my request.

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Joshua Waaland
Stars Wars Ep.I is due for re-release in 3-D next year.
I think it was at the 2006 Rocky Mountain convention that they showed us a 3-D demo of the Star Wars conversion. The picture at that demo was dark and pretty unimpressive. I'd guess they have put it on hold until they can make it look better.

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