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Richard Fowler
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I was fired twice, quit 5 - 6 times; the next phase was always MUCH better [Wink]
Larry Winglet's book "Shut up, Stop Whining, and get a Life" is a great read [Cool]
Those Mylars are too expensive...I had one client change to LED boards since the cost of operation was less expensive over time.
Cheap or working to a different manageable level are sometimes the same thing [Wink]

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Louis Bornwasser
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that we recycle 100% of the plastic corn kernels and cardboard sent in to ship out with........oh, wait.....I am the boss. Our rule is WWJB do? (Jack Benny.) Louis

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Robert Harrison
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K M A

[ 03-11-2007, 09:34 PM: Message edited by: Robert Harrison ]

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Richard Hamilton
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a simple question? Robert, who was ripped off? Your boss , if he negotiated the contract, he deserves the extra money, that is why he is your boss. Do the "foreigners" really feel ripped off? How many theaters in the states show Philipino movies? How many show foreign movies? Not very many.!

quote: Robert Harrison
If he doesn't want to pay me extra
Again, why do you think you deserve extra? Should he pay you extra because
quote: Robert Harrison
I'm not supposed to know this, but I have seen the contracts.

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Monte L Fullmer
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quote: Paul Goulet
That they won't let us order the Mylars for the movies that we are showing...


Course, you know, you could make up a bucket of bleach water and soak a trailer, unrolled, in this bucket. This will bleach the emulsion off the base film stock. Then, take all of that out of the bucket, rinse it good and let it air dry, hung up all around the booth, or take it outside on a clothes line (if you have one to use..)....
...and there you have it...polyester CLEAR threading leader...

Then, splice this clear lead to the trailer pak, using the first reel's leader of the feature as your frameup/countdown leader.....

-Monte

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Mike Spaeth
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I believe he's referring to the Title Art for the auditoriums.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote:
You're beginning to sound like Adam!
No... he's beginning to sound like me... He recently spent too much time in Utah... more than a day here and it DOES affect you that way [Eek!] . And I've been here 9 years.... [Big Grin]

Mark

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Dennis Benjamin
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I once worked for a company so cheap - the president gave himself a pay cut once.

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Richard Fowler
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Recycling...love it [Big Grin] One client we used footlockers and popcorn to ship items and parts back and forth...they would last 10 - 15 trips and cost less than cardboard boxes [Razz] Slotted metal lumber for custom projects and rental use great for recycling...unbolt and reuse and last for years. Fun to be cheap; it allows you to be extravagant when required [Cool]

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John Koutsoumis
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quote: Richard Hamilton
You can bitch all you like, but it's a fact of life.



How sad... [thumbsdown]

The Theatre I work for rightly has the "projectionist (that's me) fee" worked into the rental rates. If for some circumstance a print/s will take longer to prepare than the usual 1 hour that i'm paid for in addition to the screening times (for instance i've screened 7 hour marathon films for the Melbourne Cinematheque), they will charge the hirer the additional hourly "projectionist" rate, which is $26 and I get every cent of it. Why should the boss see any of it? They don't do the work I do.
I think in Robert's case the fact that it's called a projectionist rate is the problem. Why not also have a concessionist or box office rate?
But anyway, not really knowing the situation it's hard to comment.

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Richard Hamilton
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quote: John Koutsoumis
Why should the boss see any of it? They don't do the work I do.
No, but they are the reason you have a job there! In this case, Robert is upset because he "saw" a contract which he admits he was not supposed to see. All I am saying is that he is getting paid to do a job. If it really is a problem then he should talk to his boss.

I used to take my BMW to a shop for basic service. Say an oil change for example (not including parts). When I took my Porsche there for the same service, the labor rate was about ten or fifteen dollars an hour more. These rates are posted at the desk. Does the mechanic see any of this profit. Same mechanic each time.

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Dustin Mitchell
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This is ridiculous. If you want the damn 'projectionist fee' then give up your salary. $20 an hour might be more than your making but remember the rental people are probably only being billed for the showtime-say 1.5/2 hours. So the 'projectionist fee' needs to cover make up/break down time too.

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John Koutsoumis
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I'm not on a salary. I'm on an hourly rate and there isn't work all the time for instance this week there's only one show that i'm required for but next week there's 4 full days. It always varies. I don't whine I like the job and wouldn't want to do anything else that's why I make the sacrifice.

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No, but they are the reason you have a job there!
Yeah but in my case management made this agreement with the persons or companies hiring the Theatre because i'll invoice them for the extra time I need to prepare the prints and they didn't want to foot the bill so they past that cost to the hirer. Simple.

On top of that I do a lot of cleaning and maintenance unpaid, but I don't complain because as I said I like the work.

I think the agreement is fair. I have no trouble with management.

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Monte L Fullmer
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quote: Mike Spaeth
I believe he's referring to the Title Art for the auditoriums.

Whoops..sorry on this..you can tell that I'm not familiar with those since I've never worked with any theatre that used these art mylar titles...

I hear the word mylar and immediately think of leaders ....

*sheepish grin* - thx Monte

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James Westbrook
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I understand, Monte.
Your theatre must be using those 3 inch track letters or simular. I dealt with those at my original theatre. I discovered, with amusement, how awful some of my co-workers spell. I handed this fellow named John the letters to a midnight showing of "Carrie" in 80, didn't look at the mini-marquee above the auditorium entry until after we closed the stand and discovered he had slapped up the letters to spell "Carier".
He had also spelled "Double Feature" on the outside marquee "Dubel". (He asked the cashier how to spell "feature", thus he had that word right.)

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