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Author Topic: Charity bike rider attacked in Colorado Chad Souder Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 962 From: Waterloo, IA, USA Registered: Feb 2000 posted 07-23-2006 02:18 PM                     This story would not have even been written if it had not been a charity cause. Of course neither the cop nor the truck driver were interviewed for their side of the story. I don't buy the fact that just because you throw the word cancer in there, you can automatically assume innocence. If I were a truck driver and came upon three cyclists riding in the lane, I would pass them, and if some debris flew up while I did it, so be it. As for the cop, the story reads he followed them for 90 minutes. Sounds like he was taking time to make an accurrate assesment of the situation (while protecting the riders, you might note) and when he finally had something better to do, he asked them to obey what is probably the law and ride on the shoulder. This is not as much a news story as it is an editorial, which has become common amongst once-reputable news sources. I hope some of you others see that as well.  |  IP: Logged Jason Miller Expert Film Handler Posts: 241 From: Little Rock, AR, Registered: Mar 2004 posted 07-23-2006 05:45 PM                    modern roads werent built FOR bicycles. They were invented for motorized vehicles. bicyclists should feel lucky we let them use them. If they want a safer path, then they should lobby for bike paths to be built.  |  IP: Logged Bruce McGee Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1776 From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular. Registered: Aug 1999 posted 07-23-2006 10:01 PM                     Back when I rode my bike, I NEVER rode on heavily travelled roads. Why ask for trouble? Not everyone is America is particularly nice. Not like us, anyway.  |  IP: Logged Carl Martin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1424 From: Oakland, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 07-24-2006 03:06 AM                        quote: Jason Miller modern roads werent built FOR bicycles. They were invented for motorized vehicles. bullshit. they were built for whatever wheeled conveyances have been using them all along. bicycles happen to do so without tearing them up appreciably. it would make more sense to say roads weren't built for hummers.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 07-24-2006 06:47 AM                     Oddly enough...in my yute...I used to race bikes as part of the National Capital Velo Club...I would have called it more semi-pro than pro. Anyway...back then (in the 1970s) there is no way one could use "bike paths"...they were WAY too dangerous...popped tires, road trash, and runners. They were just too hazardous...even back then. We would ride on the road, period. I guess a difference back then was that we would pride ourselves in holding a line...like the white line that boarders the edge of the road with the gravel emergency lane. So if a dozen or so of us were training, we would be single file if any cars were behind us. We also would NEVER be on an interstate highway...that is just plain illegal and stupid. We tended to be on less-traveled park roads or again, we would really be so close to the right that you could stay in your lane with a car and pass us. And to think, back then, helmets were strictly for race day...oddly enough, a more civilized time period.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 07-24-2006 06:56 AM                        quote: Chad Souder I don't buy the fact that just because you throw the word cancer in there, you can automatically assume innocence. Agreed, and added to which the BBC is well known for its left of centre political outlook, especially where the reporting of environmental issues (e.g. promoting cycling over driving as a means to combat global warming) is concerned. Riding a push-bike along what sounds like the main carriageway of a major trunk road simply creates a danger for yourself and other road users. OK, the police officer might not have dealt with the situation as sympathetically as he could have done, but I can't see anything out of order in requiring the cyclists to use the hard shoulder. Punctures are easier to fix than accident victims. One day last December at around 6.15am I was driving up the A19 between York and Thirsk when an unlit cyclist turned right out a side road across my path (equivalent to turning left across oncoming traffic in the US). Because his bike had no lights and it was still completely dark, I didn't see him until the last moment: after hitting the brakes as hard as I could, I reckon I missed him by 1-2 seconds at the absolute most. If my reaction time had been significantly slower, it's very likely that I would have killed him. A friend later speculated that if this had happened, the BBC local radio station would have reported that a maniac driver mowed down a poor innocent cyclist, not that a roadworthy car, properly lit and being driven entirely legally (including within the speed limit) had hit an unlit bike which turned across its path.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-24-2006 08:53 AM                     quote: Steve Guttag Anyway...back then (in the 1970s) there is no way one could use "bike paths"...they were WAY too dangerous...popped tires, road trash, and runners. They were just too hazardous...even back then. Well, They make these things called Mountain Bikes just for that purpose. If you think your bike paths were dangerous back then you should come out here and hit the mountain trails, especially The Slickrock Trail, There are hundreds of absolutely amazing places to ride all over Utah. The Moab area is still by far my favorite place. Mark  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 07-24-2006 06:58 PM                     We were training for "road races" as opposed to track races in a Velodrome. I wouldn't dare ride on my racing silks for a mere traing day (which was most every day I could find the time). God, it has been a long time...I want to call those tires Clement Criteriam Setas. Used to "dynamite" them for race day...135psi. Had separate wheels for race day too, very light...Campy hubs, Super-champion rims, double cross front spokes, triple cross rears. My standard wheels/tires were much more durable for training but still you would NEVER ride on a bike path...I mean you could time how fast you had crap running in your spokes or a popped tire or some crazy runner that would get in your way down to less than a minute. You gotta remember, we are riding between 25-45mph depending on the wind, slope...etc. It also was not safe to be at those speeds with casual riders or peds/joggers.  |  IP: Logged

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