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Tim Reed
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quote: Charles Greenlee
why only use half by putting 2 identical tracks?

That's dual-bilateral, and it DOES use more real estate; you have twice the striations delivering the audio information. [Wink]

It's also less noisy than a single bilateral recording.

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Charles Greenlee
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Ah, so the redundancy is used as a sort of error correction. Makes sense. So as I was thinking before, I remember thinking Roger Rabbit was supposed to kickstart prefeature cartoons again, but ,heh, I was a kid then. I'd laso like to start useing the dancing concessions intermission trailer if/when we do have intermissions, you you can't find it anywhere, except for flash spoofs of it. That and the last movie I remember having an intermission was Gods and Generals.

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Tim Reed
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quote: Charles Greenlee
so the redundancy is used as a sort of error correction
Well, it doesn't let as much light through as a big, bilateral track (single pair of striations) does, and there's more change to the given area of light available (i.e., differences between light and dark)... which results in less film surface noise transmitted to the cell.

If you're wanting an intermission clock, might I humbly suggest:
Screen Attractions "Showbiz" Clock

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Scott Norwood
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The Let's Go to the Lobby intermission trailer is available brand-new from Filmack in Chicago. We recently started running it at the Avon (it's the first item in the trailer reel). I think they are charging $75 for it (a bit overpriced, IMHO).

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Charles Greenlee
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Yeah, the only reason for me to go for it at this time would be for personal collection. Simply because I'd have to buy it with my money, and how often would it get used? Not very, but I do like the extra touch, and tradition element it adds. It'd be fun to run a news reel, but that definatly aint gonna happen. Unless I can convice some SCAD film students to work one up, all dramatic like the old ones, from time to time. But not on film because that'd be cost prohibitive. Pipe dreams.

I'd definatly run the toons though, even if they don't come as attached features. Get younger targetted toons for the lower rated shouws, and maybe some classic looney tunes or something for higher rates shows. But yet again, I'm afraid its a moot point, unless the studio does it for us. And lets hope that Disney's a start.

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Randy Stankey
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We've switched over to 90% digital previews and ads . The only things we use film trailers for are the ones we can't get in video. We run the video previews in a continuous loop during intermission. Then we go straight into the feature on film.

Customers seem to like it better that way.

But, now that we don't have any pre-feature film material people only have a few seconds to get situated when the show starts. It's not good from a safety/security point of view and it's CERTAINLY not good from a presentation standpoint, either. Some people are sitting ready to watch the movie while others in front of them are shuffling their coats and belongings. Not to mention, the few stragglers that try to walk in and sit down in a dark theater. It's not good on many levels.

So, I proposed a solution. I think having shorts in front of the feature would be a good thing. It's entertaining. It provides a buffer zone between the intermission and the feature. It just makes for good presentation all-around.

Now... Where do we get shorts to put in front of our features?

I'm not sure Bugs Bunny & Mickey Mouse would be appropriate for every feature we have but I'd like to know where we can look for animated and non-animated shorts in 35mm. (Doing them in video would be counterproductive.)

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Louis Bornwasser
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You may know that a specific cartoon ran only with a specific film. Does anyone have a list? This is very true for pre-Road Runner cartoons; Warners. Louis

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Mike Blakesley
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When we had Disney's movie Aladdin, we ran the Looney Tune "A Lad In His Lamp" with it. (Bugs Bunny...a classic!)

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Charles Greenlee
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Ooh, that's crossing sudios, and fierce rivals no less. You are risking the wrath of the Disney secret police. I like Looney Toons, better than most of the Disney shorts, not that Disney shorts suck, just indicating a preference. Now if we're talking full lenght animated features, Disney over WB, but that's a different topic.

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Mike Blakesley
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That was back when we'd be running movies in Week 12 or something. The studios were already onto the next big thing by the time movies got to the small towns. Nowadays I'd never do such a thing with a brand new movie.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Mike Blakesley
Nowadays I'd never do such a thing with a brand new movie.
Yea, You could probably make more profit by just showing 2 hours worth of cartoons and skipping the pre movie cartoon altogether!!

Mark

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