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Bob Maar
(Maar stands for Maartini)

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posted 12-11-2006 12:41 PM

Mike if we do as you have suggested then Joe will have another "Holy Day" just like The Fourth of July and Labor Day [Wink]

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Charles Greenlee
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posted 12-11-2006 01:17 PM

Actually, it is Christmas that should be moved. If I remember correctly, scholars say from the description in the bible, it should have happened in late summer? It's been a while. So move Christmas to the closes approximation we have to it's real anniversary, and change Dec 25th to gift day. I mean, it's already that way for alot of people. I'm not anti-religuios, I just beleive that we should be doing things right, if we can help it. Speaking of doing things right, I'm definatley going to be stuffing myself right this Christmas. I can already taste the cranberry sauce. It's still in its original can shape. Mmmm.

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Rachel Craven
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posted 12-11-2006 10:40 PM

Happy Holidays Everyone!!! [Big Grin]

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Mike Blakesley
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posted 12-12-2006 03:10 AM

quote: Charles Greenlee
scholars say from the description in the bible, it should have happened in late summer?

I read somewhere that it was probably closer to April because that's when shepherds would have been in the fields.

And a happy Kwanzaa to all! [Big Grin]

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Charles Greenlee
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posted 12-12-2006 03:38 AM

Good call Mike. Hence why the question mark in there. I couldn't remember exactly, just the fact that it wasn't in December, but in warmer months. But can shaped cranberry sauce for everyone, just the same. Do try to cut along the rings.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 12-12-2006 12:58 PM

I hate the Christmas season. I'd be much happier if it didn't exist. Why? Because about 200 million more people come out of nowhere and they are all insane and stressed, and it makes it a pain in the ass to go out in public. Not sure where these people are the rest of the year. I am always happy when the season ends, the people all go away to wherever it is that they came from, stress levels go down, and it is safe to be out in public again.

To hell with Christmas!

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 12-12-2006 01:35 PM

quote: Bob Maar
Mike if we do as you have suggested then Joe will have another "Holy Day" just like The Fourth of July and Labor Day

The Fourth of July is more like, "Holy shit, that blew up real good!" That's the only thing "holy" about it. Not that it's a bad thing.
[thumbsup]

Combine alcohol use and fireworks for more excitement. Slower reaction times and shaky judgment create more opportunities for comedy...and ambulances!

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Leo Enticknap
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posted 12-12-2006 05:07 PM

I have to confess that, not being a Christian, I find the whole business uneasy. On the one hand the commercialism - the idea that you'll enjoy yourself and have a fulfilling break in direct proportion to how much money you spend - drives me round the twist; but on the other I feel a complete hypocrite taking part in any of the religious stuff, for the simple reason that I don't believe it.

I think the real killer is that in Britain at any rate, 'Christmas' now starts so far in advance (from just after Guy Fawkes night as far as the shops are concerned) and disrupts everyday life for so long (workplaces stop functioning normally around now, and don't start again until the second week in January), that for those of us who don't have kids or exist in a family situation that makes a big deal out of Christmas, it's really difficult to keep a good humour about it for the whole period. I think the US approach, where only Christmas Day itself is a public holiday and there is at least some business as usual on the days around it, is a far healthier way to do it.

But, all that having been said, have a good one!

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Dieter Depypere
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posted 12-13-2006 01:11 AM

Merry Christmas to all Film-Techers.

This evening there is a Christmas celebration in the movie theatre I work in. [beer]

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Peter Berrett
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posted 12-13-2006 03:53 AM

quote: Charles Greenlee
Actually, it is Christmas that should be moved. If I remember correctly, scholars say from the description in the bible, it should have happened in late summer? It's been a while. So move Christmas to the closest approximation we have to it's real anniversary, and change Dec 25th to gift day. I mean, it's already that way for a lot of people. I'm not anti-religious, I just believe that we should be doing things right, if we can help it. Speaking of doing things right, I'm definently going to be stuffing myself right this Christmas. I can already taste the cranberry sauce. It's still in its original can shape. Mmmm.

Here in Australia we have Xmas in summer. You don't need to move date just hemisphere! [Smile]

Merry Xmas everyone and to all on the Shuttle and Space Station. I wonder if Santa will drop by the Space Station?

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Charles Greenlee
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posted 12-13-2006 04:15 AM

quote:
Here in Australia we have Xmas in summer. You don't need to move date just hemisphere!

But I like the cold. I want to move further north, so it's not sweltering in the summer. You can always add more clothes, but can't take too many off, or you get arrested.

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Anslem Rayburn
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posted 12-13-2006 04:40 AM

Removed to avoid religious discussion.

[ 12-13-2006, 08:09 PM: Message edited by: Anslem Rayburn ]

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Don Sneed
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posted 12-15-2006 07:56 PM

To All on Film Tech, it's been a pleasure this past year reading your lines, hearing about your theatre problems, getting them solve & hearing the grips...Thank you Brad for making all of this happen... as for me, I just finish a 12-screen install, it's time to go crusing...& that is just what I am going to do, so for myself & my wife, Santa gave us a cruise from Galveston, Texas to the western Caribean for 7-days leaving Sunday, A long overdue vacation. will be back on Christmas Eve, so what that I will say.. "Merry Christmas, have a Happy Holidays"...

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Randy Stankey
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posted 12-15-2006 10:48 PM

I think we should do what Father Guido Sarducci talked about way back in the 70's.

Big Christmas, Little Christmas!

quote: Charles Greenlee
If I remember correctly, scholars say from the description in the bible, it should have happened in late summer?

Actually, the Gregorian calendar was set up to synchronize the lunar calendar, which was used to calculate religious events, and the Julian calendar, which was in common use at the time.

The problem was the BOTH calendars were inaccurate The religious feasts tended to drift backward through the seasons because of the lunar cycle and, because of the Julian calendar's inaccurate leap year calculation, caused events to also drift.

In other words, the new year would occur in the winter at one point in time, then eventually, over time would end up in summer.

Then, throw in the fact that the First Council of Nicea decreed that Easter should be celebrated at the same time every year and that it should be celebrated by all factions of the Christian Religion at the same time.

Therefore, the Gregorian calendar set the date of EASTER and let Christmas fall where it may. Think about it... Easter is a MUCH more important holiday to Christians!

So, yes, Charles, Christmas probably didn't actually occur in December but, because of the way the Gregorian calendar was set up, Christmas falls in December.

Then, of course, there's all that talk about the Pope decreeing that Christmas should fall at the same time of the year that the pagan religions of the era celebrated their year's end festivals.
There's probably some truth to that but I think it's more like a happy accident. What the Pope really wanted to do was to set the date of Easter.

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Alan Plester
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posted 12-16-2006 06:06 AM

Its not far off now,hope you all out there have a fantastic Christmas, and get some really good prezzies that are just what you wanted.

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