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Author Topic: 79th Academy Award Nominees List Allison Parsons Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 630 From: East Peoria, IL Registered: Oct 2004 posted 01-27-2007 02:00 AM                        Question: Letters from Iwo Jima is subtitled, correct? Now, why is that up for best picture, and not foreign language film of the year?  |  IP: Logged Mark Ogden Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 943 From: Little Falls, N.J. Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-27-2007 10:52 AM                     It’s a long story how this works, Allison, but I’ll try to condense it for you: In order to be nominated for an Oscar, you first have to nominate yourself to be nominated in the catagory of your choice. What that means is this: the producers of a film decide what category they want their movie to be considered for, based in large part on what they think it has the best chance of winning. They then notify the Academy of the choice of catagory, and submit the film. The makers of Letters From Iwo Jima apparently felt the film was strong enough to win a Best Picture Oscar, so they went for that as opposed to “just” Best Foreign Language Film (you can’t set yourself up for both). The people who made Pan’s Labyrinth could have gone the same route, but probably decided that since there were strong contenders already in the Best Picture category, they had a much better shot at Best Foreign Language Film, which is what they asked to be considered for. Hence, all the ‘for your consideration” ads in the trade papers. What happens next is, all the members of the voting branches of the industry get inundated with DVDs of the all these movies, and eventually a ballot is circulated for the voters to make the official nominations. So basically, you ask to be considered for the most prestigious category you think you have a reasonable shot at. Sometimes, it’s truly odd. A few years back, if you recall, the actress Jennifer Connelly (yowza!) won Best Supporting Actress for A Beautiful Mind, even though she was the female lead, and there was no-one to support but herself. Same philosophy: given the other probable contenders, the studio put her up for the category that they thought she could win. And she did.  |  IP: Logged Mike Schindler Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1039 From: Oak Park, IL, USA Registered: Jun 2002 posted 01-27-2007 11:29 AM                     Mark, I think there's more to it than that. In recent years, CROUCHING TIGER, HIDDEN DRAGON and LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL were nominated for both. The only reason that I can think of why LETTERS FROM IWO JIMA wouldn't have been nominated for Foreign Film is because Films in that category need to be submitted by their country's governments or something like that, and countries are only allowed to submit one movie. So maybe America decided to submit something else? But this brings up another reason why the Academy's stupid. Why is it "Foreign Language" and not just "Foreign"?  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-27-2007 12:26 PM                        quote: Mike Schindler Why is it "Foreign Language" and not just "Foreign"? Because a film could be American-made, but in a foreign language. ("The Passion of the Christ") Conversely, a film could be made in any other country of the world, but have English dialogue, hence it's a foreign film but not a foreign language film.  |  IP: Logged Mark Ogden Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 943 From: Little Falls, N.J. Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-27-2007 01:32 PM                     You're right about Life is Beautiful and Crouching Tiger, I stand corrected. It is the acting catagories that are one-or-the-other exclusive. In theory (at least), Letters From Iwo Jima could have been put up for Best Foreign Language Film, as the rule was changed last year to the effect that the film in question does NOT have to be in the native language of the country of origin. It's interesting that the Golden Globe people saw it that way, they gave it their Best Foreign Language award.  |  IP: Logged Mike Schindler Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1039 From: Oak Park, IL, USA Registered: Jun 2002 posted 01-27-2007 01:37 PM                     quote: Mike Blakesley Because a film could be American-made, but in a foreign language. ("The Passion of the Christ") Conversely, a film could be made in any other country of the world, but have English dialogue, hence it's a foreign film but not a foreign language film. Yeah, I get that. But isn't the intent to showcase World Cinema, since most of what we see is American-made? That's what I always thought. So why should LETTERS FROM IWO JIMA be eligible, but not something like CASINO ROYALE?  |  IP: Logged Anslem Rayburn Master Film Handler Posts: 476 From: Yuma, AZ, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 01-27-2007 09:31 PM                     How Oscar nominees are picked.  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Jorgenson Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1002 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: Feb 2005 posted 02-02-2007 02:26 PM                        quote: Mark Ogden It is the acting categories that are one-or-the-other exclusive. I thought the actor (or, more likely, the studio) just campaigned for one or the other ... but I didn't think that campaigning for one, made them ineligible for the other. Years ago, Barry Fitzgerald was nominated for best actor and best supporting actor for THE SAME PERFORMANCE (in 1944's Going My Way). Granted, the rules change each year.  |  IP: Logged

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