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Dennis Benjamin
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I did not watch 90% of the Academy Awards Show. I flipped over to that channel a couple of times. I got the same uncomfortable feeling with last night's show as I did with the Golden Globes. Everything seemed fake and the people seemed oddly uncomfortable.

I really can't put my finger on the exact problem. But all the award shows seem really cheesy - nowadays. Come on - Ellen having Steven Spielberg take a picture of her and Clint Eastwood for her MySpace page? Why did they have to do that and waste time? Really stupid comical bits. The whole "backstage" thing too - retarded.

I am glad I wasn't watching when Jerry Seinfeld was on - because I would have busted my television screen and my wife would be mad at me now.....................

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Frank Dubrois
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The Jerry Seinfeld thing...well, it was just a comedy routine. I REALLY don't think he was serious. You can't watch an actor or comedian and beleive that what he is saying is true. Jerry does observational humor...He see's other people do it, and writes a skit about it. Thats all. It wasn't all that funny, but still, I think its the first I heard movie theaters even mentioned at the Academy Awards. After all, without us, the movies would be no where. Perhaps more of a tribute to the low paid workers that run the establishments and MAKE them rich and famous rather than poke fun at them?? Just an idea.

It was sad to see Clint Eastwood botch his speech. I hate to see some of my favorite movie stars get old. It makes me realize that he may not have may years left in the business and his contributions will be missed.

I think what the Academy Awards really needs to do is find a REAL host. Billy Crystal was awesome, Steven Martin was good, David Letterman didn't seem to take it seriously, who's next? Why do we need a comedian? Why not a professional MC?

Just a few ideas.

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Mike Schindler
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William Shatner should host next year's Oscars, and every one after that too.

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Frank Dubrois
I think its the first I heard movie theaters even mentioned at the Academy Awards.
I think it was at last year's awards (after the "slump") that they had a speech by some heavyweight director extolling the virtues of the cinema screen vs the home screen.

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Mike Heenan
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I would agree this was just observational humor on Seinfelds part; Does anyone remember the hilarious (better than the film itself) trailer for Comedian, spoofing those epic movie trailers (in a time... no... in a land before time, one man must overcome... no, that's not what this movie is about!). Naturally, what better place to joke about theaters than the Oscars, in a room full of movie people, and being watched by millions of movie fans?

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Joe Redifer
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OK first of all, why does everyone expect Ellen (and every other host) to match or exceed Billy Crystal? It is true that I wasn't laughing so hard that I was rolling down the street uncontrollably, but it could have been much worse as well.

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After all, without us[movie theaters], the movies would be no where.
That may have been true in the past, but no more! Home video kicks the living hell out of movie theaters these days, especially in quality and comfort. Many movies make MORE on home video release than they do at the box office. I think it is hilarious that some people in the industry would get angry about Jerry's skit.

As for the show itself, most of the acceptance speeches and all of the songs and commercials found themselves muted at my place. I wish I had a super-extra-powerful mute for when someone takes a pre-prepared speech out of their jacket and starts to read it. That is so cheesy. Also, I'm glad Peter O'Toole didn't win. That would have been the first time that someone would have won the best actor award posthumously.

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Bill Gabel
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quote: Joe Redifer
That would have been the first time that someone would have won the best actor award posthumously.
Well Joe, 31 years ago Peter Finch became the first posthumous winner in an acting category. He won the oscar and the Bafta and Golden Globe awards for best actor for the film "Network".

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Joe Redifer
OK first of all, why does everyone expect Ellen (and every other host) to match or exceed Billy Crystal?
I don't. I'd like to see every Oscar host match or exceed Johnny Carson, but that's probably impossible. Billy Crystal is the best host to come along since Carson, and is probably the only level these newer people can possibly hope to reach.

On your last comment about movie theatres, I'm sorry there are no good ones in your radius of existence.

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Frank Dubrois
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I equate most "direct to DVD" movies as crap that couldn't cut it in the movie theater (Chuck Norris, Steven Segal, jean Claude VanDamme all come to mind). I also havent heard great things about the Disney animated sequals that were direct to DVD. I think home video does so well because people first see the movie in a theater, then want to purchase the movie. I bet this would change if the movie theaters went out of business. Rentals may go up, but sales would go down.

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Joe Redifer
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quote: Mike Blakesley was the last to post
Jack Black
I hate this man. I would approve if he died. If polls were allowed on Film-Tech, I'd start a thread titled "Would you approve if Jack Black died?" and there would be two options to choose from: Yes and Hell Yes. It would be the most popular thread ever and there would be over a million votes.

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Chad M Calpito
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That's an interesting idea, Joe. I like that idea. [beer] [Big Grin]

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Scott Jentsch
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Ellen Degeneres looked uncomfortable, but maybe that's her normal demeanor. I wouldn't know, as I don't watch anything she's done. I agree that Billy Crystal did a much better job at hosting, and Steve Martin did a pretty good job as well.

I guess it depends on why the host is there, and who their audience is. Arguably, a host should be catering to his audience, but with this show, they have two very disparate audiences. The live audience is a bunch of people in the industry (ignoring the seat fillers). The television audience is filled with celebrity watchers and movie fans.

Personally, I'd like to see Robert Osborne host the awards. For that to work, everything about the show needs to be trimmed for length. Osborne is great for the 60 second intro that he does before movies on Turner Classic Movies, but I don't think I'd want to see him try to get through a 10 minute monologue.

Right now, the host is just a court jester that they trot out on stage every once in a while to keep everyone awake.

I hated the sound effects chorus routine, it had no place and brought a slow-running production to a screeching halt. The shadow dancers were OK because they were used as transitions and were kept brief. The Dreamgirls musical number was great, and made Etheridge's win for Best Song all that much more odd.

The backstage interviewer guy needed to be tossed out the back door. He was useless and every moment he was on was wasted time.

The comment I made on my site was that the Academy needs to hire the editor that won for The Departed and edit the awards ceremony. The standard thank-yous need to be submitted by each nominee ahead of time, and those names (limit of 10) are subtitled on the screen while the winner is walking up to stage. No one can thank any person or company while at the microphone, because those people have been thanked in the subtitles. That way, no one gets offended because they weren't mentioned in the speech. Every winner gets 30 seconds with a countdown clock facing them. At 0, the mic goes dead.

Knock the 3:45 running time to 2:30. After all, that's about the length of a longish movie these days, and about all the time that people really want to sit for something like this. James Berardinelli was able to get through the entire broadcast in 70 minutes using a PVR and skipping over stuff that he didn't find interesting. I'm willing to give them more than double that amount of time.

I enjoy watching the awards because it is a nice way to look back on the previous year in movies, and I admit to enjoying celebrity watching to an extent. At some point, however, the whole affair gets self-indulgent and you just get tired of it all.

Lastly, the set design was boring. I've seen better backdrops at the portrait studio at Target. Overall, the people that produce this show need to be given better leadership. It could be so much better, but isn't.

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Joe Redifer
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What was with the announcer spewing random BS as each winner walked up to the stage? "This was the first movie that Martin Scorsese worked on that even remotely had a plot!" or "Penelope Cruz's road to the Oscars was fraught with adversity since she almost blew away during a mild breeze" or "Helen Mirren had brand new tits installed for her role in 'The Queen'. She liked them so much that she kept them after the production was finished, as you can clearly see".

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Mike Blakesley
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I'd say that was inspired by either sports coverage or CNN. The need to get as much information as possible spewing from the screen at all times.

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Phil Hill
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I totally agree, Joe!!! If someone would rip off the heads of Jack Black, Steve Martin, and Billy Crystal, I'd glady shit down their necks! What a bunch of losers!

Yours in Christ...

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