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Andrew McCrea
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Didn't Brad say somewhere here that you could do a 10k lamp with a Kinoton package for 35mm?

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Brad Miller
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They will do it, yes.

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Bobby Henderson
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quote: Monte L Fullmer
..if VistaVision can look good on that big of screen since it was a flat format and using prime IB prints...(unless you're talking about doing the actual 8 perf lateral feed projection instead of the 90 degree printed release prints of the same ..)
Yes, I was implying the use of actual "lazy 8" perf 35mm film drawn horizontally through the projector. I agree, VistaVision was a flat format. However, Technirama was an anamorphic variant of the process. Sure, someone would have to develop Technirama style anamorphic decompression lenses for projectors. But while I'm mentioning perfectly logical things that will never happen, anamorphic projector lenses for non-existent 8-perf 35mm projectors aren't going to hurt anything either.

Of course, there is that 5-perf 70mm projection thing that was actually somewhat common. But Hollywood isn't going to do that either.

They'll just use 4/35, no matter the size of screen. Just put an even more powerful lamp in the projector and try to squeeze all that light through a hole not much bigger than a SD flash card.

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Paul Linfesty
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quote: Monte L Fullmer
Yea, isn't the Radio City Music Hall's screen in scope opening close to this 100 x 42 ft size?

I believe it is 70 feet wide for scope (as well as 70mm).

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Michael Coate
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From Bob Endres' Radio City Music Hall article on in70mm.com:

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The screen, or "picture sheet" at the Hall is 69 1/2´ x 34 1/2´ (21,2 x 10,5 m) and the full aspect ratio 70mm picture is 69´ x 31´ (21 x 9,4 m). The 1.85 70mm picture when run at maximum size is 63´ x 34´ (19,2 x 10,4 m).

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When Disney came in to look at test reels prior to the premiere of "The Lion King", we were able to run 70mm and 35mm reels of "Aladdin" locked together. It became obvious that the 35mm 1.85:1 picture size of 48´ x 26´ (14,6 x 7,9 m) couldn't compare with the larger image made possible by 70mm

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quote: Geoff Jones
But I have to say, as a moviegoer, this is pretty appealing to me. A 100' screen is a reason to go to the movies. It is not something I can replicate in my home.
I personally find it more about scale and proportion. I have worked in some small cinemas (110 seat), which have had a far too big a screen, (this case common width), where the audience always seem to sit in the back row or on the edges, in an attempt to be at what most would find a comfortable distance away from it. I would say most of the seats would not provide a good cinema experience even after they reduced the screen size by 30%, which they did.

On the other hand I have been to a small cinema of say 80 seats, which I thought had a perfectly proportioned, extremly large screen experience. Enjoyable from most of the seats.

In my opinion there are still far too many long narrow corridors with postage stamp proportioned screens out there.

A friend of mine who has experienced the LARGEST MULTIPLEX screen in australia at Hoyts Blacktown, Puts the experience into the first example, a screen simply too big for the room for comfortable viewing.

I wonder how far from this monster screen they place the first row of seats?

I find that auditorium shape is more important than size of screen.

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Paul Cassidy
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Well it opens today with the New Kiwi splatter flick BLACK SHEEP , so will check it out to see if all the hype is justified . [beer]

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Andrew McCrea
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With Hoyts having all these ginormous (forgive the use of unreal words, but it feels fitting) screens, I'm suprized there's no Hoyts in the picture warehouse.

Could someone do a photo shoot?

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Paul Cassidy
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I have asked to do a video tour of the complex , they have advised that this is possible in May after all the teething has been ironed out , this is the only photo Ive seen of the New screen , this is still during comstruction BIG SCREEN

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Monte L Fullmer
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Now, why would a place like that use ORC consoles shooting 90 degree BENT light to hit that screen 180 ft away, when they could have opted for a direct mirror console or lamphouse..? Before those consoles were put in, I've seen picts of that booth where they used Peerless HyCondensant condensor arc lamphouses..lamphouses had to go since the condensors were getting busted and no more were being made..

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According to the link above they are spending 3 MILLION per screen! They had damn well better have studio grade Kinoton equipment in there.

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Dustin Mitchell
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Would that be $3 NZ?

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Paul Cassidy
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NZD is worth about 70 cents USD [Razz]

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Mark Strube
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quote: Cameron Glendinning
crap speakers (woofers for the surround chanel ? um bass is NOT directional)
Do you mean subwoofers not behind the screen, in the surround channel area? How'd they pull that off? I've always been a fan of using large rear speakers, since mid-low range sound is directional to a point... but subs back there is really strange.

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Cameron Glendinning
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umm no, just a surround channel of 12" woofers in boxes that have nothing to do with their Theale/Small parameters, they sound like crap, probably no damping material used inside the box to surpress standing waves ect.
If this driver also had a midrange and a tweeter in a properly designed box. It would sound great however.

Dont worry though those cinemas feature DIGITAL sound. [Confused]

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Brad, Hoyts seem to always use Christie, 1 blade shutter, I guess?

Paul I loved the trailer for BLACK SHEEP, Did you enjoy it? that film looks like it will perpetuate certain myths about New Zealanders.

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