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Author Topic: Should I Extend My Land Rover Warranty John Walsh Film God Posts: 2490 From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way Registered: Oct 1999 posted 07-19-2007 07:49 AM                     Yeah, you'd have to drive a LR (especially off-road) to appreciate them. I've not had any major problems; I have 90K on mine, get 18mpg, and all tires and the front brakes are original. I think I avoided most headaches by not getting fancy options (self-leveling suspension, active cornering enhancement) which might break. Many people do seem to have problems, but my own guess is at least 50% of people buying a LR do not understand fully what they have purchased. They think they are buying a sporty car for the highway and to load antiques into; the advertisements showing the car off-road just looks 'fun' - they would never actually go off-road. But after buying, they complain about the rougher ride (because the suspension is beefed up for off-road) or how it doesn't go real fast, (because it's geared lower for pulling) etc. It's not a great on-road vehicle, it's not a great off-road vehicle. It's a great combination of both.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-19-2007 08:49 AM                     quote: John Walsh It's not a great on-road vehicle, it's not a great off-road vehicle. It's a great combination of both. John, I think many people that have troubles just don't follow the prescribed service reccomendations. As for the FL'er I would have to say that it is a really great on road vehicle and a good off road vehicle. The added safety that the traction control offers is pretty amazing on snow and ice... and gravel. Yep! I've done right around 100mph on gravel! Since I don't have true 4wdL1 on mine there is that disadvantage but I have yet to come into any circumstance where it couldn't make it up a hill and over the rocks and loaded with 4 people. It has the same dowhill mode and that works great.... lets you come down out of a tree easily. With the 2" lift kit and larger tires added things will certainly improve. The typical LR's back seat has always had more room than any other comparable vehicle, people can actually ride back there, have a good view and enjoy themselves. And... LR's certainly have a proven heritage that no other manufacturer has been able to touch. I'd like to see Richard try this with his Sport Trac or what ever it was... Get any orther brand vehicle into this position and see if you can still open and close the doors! It just ain't goin to happen...  |  IP: Logged Mark Hajducki Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 500 From: Edinburgh, UK Registered: May 2003 posted 07-19-2007 10:29 AM                     Would extending the warranty force you to use approved (and expensive) service centres?  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-19-2007 10:41 AM                     quote: Mark Hajducki Would extending the warranty force you to use approved (and expensive) service centres? I didn't get that far with checking this offer out to know. When I originally bought the vehicle the dealer offered me an extended warranty thorough some reputable company....can't remember who it was but I could use that warranty where ever I wanted to... Land Rover dealerships included. The problem was it that it only covered the basic drive train and I thought 1500.00 for that was a bit out of line. Usually an extended warranty covers all the stuff. The single biggest problem with Land Rover dealerships over here is that they prefer to replace stuff not repair it. That includes drive trains and such. Even though you may just have a blown head gasket which is a pretty simple thing they might opt to replace the whole engine. This happens both when it still under LR's warranty and out of. Geez, its common for entire transmissions have be replaced just because of a $20.00 solonoid failing! Its That reason why there are so many independent LR specialty shops... at least out here. I think if my engine or tranny went I'd be able to change either of them out myself pretty easily. There are sevaral sources now for FL'er trannys and the pricing has become more reasonable. A entire new engine is $4200.00 plus shipping but with the core credit that works out to about $2500.00 which again is reasonable compared to other brands. Since its all computer controled there are no adjustments after installation to either of them. Mark  |  IP: Logged Pete Naples Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1565 From: Dunfermline, Scotland Registered: Feb 2001 posted 07-19-2007 11:11 AM                     Mark, there's a whole industry devoted to them over here! The dealer prices for parts and labour are utterly ridiculous, and dealers don't want to know about anything over 3 years old, so there are specialist suppliers and workshops all over the country. You'd be in your element. I'm a Range Rover man myself, best of both worlds. It'll go anywhere, tow an articulated truck and leave most cars in it's rear view mirror on the road, yet still not be out of place parked outside a posh hotel. That said, mines in bits in my garage right now.....  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-20-2007 08:18 AM                     Pete, How come yours is all apart? Air suspension problems?  |  IP: Logged Pete Naples Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1565 From: Dunfermline, Scotland Registered: Feb 2001 posted 07-20-2007 10:07 AM                     No, I binned the EAS years ago and fitted old fashioned coils and dampers. It's currently got half the body stripped off cos we're chasing out rust caused by years of competitive off road use. Thus far I've replaced both sills, both rear wheel arches, front footwells and we're currently working on the rear body cross member.  |  IP: Logged John Walsh Film God Posts: 2490 From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way Registered: Oct 1999 posted 07-20-2007 11:05 AM                     Yep, leaf springs and regular shocks; the way God intended off-road vechiles to be......  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-20-2007 11:14 AM                     WOW! You're really goin to town on that rover. Are you going to do new pait as well? I agree on the air stuff... it seems to cause the most trouble in Range Rovers... the replacement springs and stuff are the better route. The air stuff sure give a nice ride when its working though off road or on.... MArk  |  IP: Logged Richard Hamilton Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1341 From: Evansville, Indiana Registered: Jan 2000 posted 07-20-2007 01:06 PM                     quote: Mark Gulbrandsen I'd like to see Richard try this with his Sport Trac or what ever it was... Ha..When I had it, I would've taken you up on that! Actually it was perfect for the beach, I pulled a few trucks out of the sand. It was also great on the highway. I pulled a trailer with everything for a Megasystems booth and couldn't tell that it was behind me. quote: Get any orther brand vehicle into this position and see if you can still open and close the doors! So who pulled you out of that one? The Escalade isn't meant for offroading, it's meant for pimp'n. The only 4 wheel excitement I'll see in it is in the snow. If it gets stuck, I'll turn on the heated seats, push the Onstar button, drop down the T.V. screen and watch whatever good show is on or pop in a movie Rick  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 07-20-2007 01:33 PM                     Read today in the paper that FORD is hurting so bad that they are moving agressively forward in dumping JAGUAR and LR .. to bail themselves out of the mire.. and you're gonna see "Dr.Z" drop Chrysler pretty soon ...  |  IP: Logged Pete Naples Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1565 From: Dunfermline, Scotland Registered: Feb 2001 posted 07-20-2007 01:42 PM                     Problem for me with the EAS was not it's reliability as such, it was the more than once being left on the bump stops due to stones, tree roots or similar getting where they shouldn't and puncturing one of the bladders. JW, it's running on progressive coil springs, Range Rovers have never been fitted with leafs, in fact Land Rovers haven't since about 1982. The progressives with gas dampers give a really nice ride on or off road, often likened to a magic carpet  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-20-2007 02:16 PM                     Richard... any other vehicle woulda sunk in the river... or there'd be water up to your knees... I can thnk of only one other vehicle that is built to do that and thats the Hummer. quote: If it gets stuck, Now you know darn well if it does it'll cause you to be late to the next hearing.... Then there'll be a warrant and the net result is you'll have many years to watch lots of films.... Mark  |  IP: Logged Bill Enos Film God Posts: 2081 From: Richmond, Virginia, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 07-22-2007 07:07 PM                     Sorry Mark, nothing out of the way in those pics. Every enthusiast for every brand of semi off road vehicle out there has a stack of outrageous water and wheels off the ground photos with the same claims. The greatest hazard in driving thru deep water is getting in just a little too deep and having some water go into the air intake and into a cylinder, blown head gaskets and bent con rods and cranks. If the servicing shop finds a drop of water in anything, all warranties are over.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-22-2007 07:34 PM                     Bill, Actually the bigger danger is the vehicle interior fill'n up with water. So far only Land Rover and Hummer have the special door seals that are up to the job and proper compartments that are also sealed for all the on board computers and electrical systems. Ya don't wanna ruin that nice leather interior if ys have one... Or the Seimens computers! Land rovers are supplied from the factory as such that they can be dunked without damage to anything electrical or interior... in fact the Freelanders ignition coils are individually mounted on each spark plug. Also of you're going to go way under then a snorkel is mandatory as wouod be raising the levels of the nvents for the differential and transmission . This is a snorkle on the G-4 Freelander. And then... none of the Jeeps have anything resembling true electronic traction control... It makes a HUGE difference as to not getting stuck in the mud and sliding or spinniing out on snow, ice or rain! In fact you could stop half way through a muddy hill climb and then start up again and get right to the top... This is probably my favorite off road feature on the Freelander. The downhill button is not to shabby either! As they say... "Only Land Rover"! P.S. I have ordered a new tire cover... It says "Jeep Rescue Vehicle" on it with the Land Rover insignia below that .  |  IP: Logged

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