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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Randy Stankey
Well, if you see the lamp suddenly go out, do you need the projector to tell you that?

Yes! If you're monitoring all your projectors from a central location as BYU does. Some 800 video projectors. Then a tech can go to a certain classroom and change the lamp.

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Randy Stankey
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[Eek!] 800 projectors!? [Eek!]

[Eek!] Fuckin' Meow! [Eek!]

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It is actually quite common for a university setting to have that sort of monitoring for the A/V equipment. Both the projector manufactuers as well as A/V equipment support companies like Extron make devices to do this even easier.

In fact, these devices (basically gives not only Ethernet capability to non-Ethernet devices) but full control of them too.

So, you can have the projectors (or whatever) email the appropriate office when it is time to reorder a particular lamp, or when it is time to clean the filters or change the lamp...you name it.

You could have a professor call the A/V office of a non-functioning system and the A/V tech can possibly fix the problem from the office much faster then actually dispatching a tech to the classroom and disturbing the class. One generally doesn't have much time to troubleshoot once the class has started.

You can also use them as a security system in that if the Ethernet connection is lost or the connection with the controlled device is lost, security can be dispatched to investigate if it is a theft in progress or merely a power malfunction. Yes, yes, A/V is getting more sophisticated.

As to the HD8K, it needs 10A 200/240 power. It isn't too hard to figure out. In fact, it has that label right on the back by the power connector.

As to the HD8K, you are not too likely to see it show up in Cinemas other than as a rental projector. It is not DCinema compliant and prices out at about what a DCinema projector costs (close enough). In an A/V application it is handy in that it is relatively small and has the A/V type inputs. DCinema only has HDSDI (2x) and DVI (2x) for inputs standard.

There is also the HD6K, HD7K, HD5K, HD12K and HD18K (the model number tells you the lumen rating x1000).

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quote: Richard Fowler
Phillips who got out of the cinema xenon market 20+ years ago are back in.....they recently bought LTI. There has been some management shuffle and possible new products with Phillip's input..

That's interesting; in the field of commercial lighting Philips discharge lamps are regarded as being about the best. If they're going to be making projection lamps they could be worth looking at.

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Is the HD8K actually made by Christie? Most (all?) of the small/medium-size Christie video projectors that I have seen were repackaged Sanyos.

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quote: Randy
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That name always makes me laugh. It conjures up images of the pig on Green Acres.

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Steve Guttag
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Yes, its true that Sanyo will sell its projector to most anyone for rebranding, I don't think this is the case for the HD series from Christie...first of, it is a 3-chip 2K DLP projector (all of the HD series). Via Electrohome, Christie got a jump start in the DLP field whereas Sanyo has just started to dable in DLP.

The HD series is quite interesting in that they are not all that big for their lumen output and they are not all that expensive compared to what devices like them cost just a couple of years ago. For a rental/AV house, they have to be something high on the want list.

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The manual specifies the power the projector needs. But we had some questions like I outlined above. Not everybody who installs one of these will be a professional installer. I didn't think it was too much to ask to make the power requirements crystal clear. It would be a simple solution without bowing to the lowest common denominator idiot. Wouldn't it?

I thought Scott was right. From what I understood, the Christie projector is OEM by Sanyo. Same thing with the Eiki.

For what it's worth, they are stamped "Made in Canada."

The networking you talk about is part of what we're going to be doing when we get the Extron switcher hooked up. I have thrown a line over to the audio/computer rack from the Component Engineering automation. I've set it up so that, when "Cue 7" (piece of tape all the way across the film, tripping all three detectors simultaneously) passes the FM-35 it will send a signal to the switcher and projector to shut down. That way we can run out trailers (and ads [Frown] ) on the screen using the video system. When it's time for the movie to start, the operator just presses the <START> button and everything else happens by magic.

If everything works the way we've been promised, it will be pretty slick!

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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I was told that the Christies that are related to Sanyo only use the Sanyo Light Engine... the rest is manufactured by Christie. The Scandanavian Company I was thinking of is Projection Design... Christie may have teamed up with them on the smaller 3-chip DLP's.

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Hey! Just so you guys know... The broadcast went very well yesterday! [Smile]

The projector worked just as it was supposed to. It produced a very nice, bright picture on our 13 foot tall screen. In fact, I'd say it was a little TOO bright.

I think I'm going to lower the brightness and turn on the automatic brightness control then save that as a setting. When we do movies or simulcasts again, I'll use that setting. When we do lectures that have to be done under stage light, I'll leave it at full power. That way we won't have to dim the stage lights to see the screen.

Thanks for all your advice!

Now, if I can only talk them into replacing the Smart MOD-IIB sound processor with a nice Dolby unit, we'd be all set! [Smile]

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While I can't speak to all Christie LCD projectors but the LW25, LW40 and LW300 are 100% Sanyo projectors....known as the PLV-70, PLV-WF10 and PLV-80 respectively. The only thing Christie about them is the silk-screen on the case and the title screen during warm up. You can also look at their parts books...the numbers are all "610" Sanyo numbers rather than traditional Christie numbers.

As for the DLP stuff...I'm sure that is Electrohome in origin...hence the "Made in Canada" labels.

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http://www.electrohome.com/products/branded_products.htm

About half way down the page...

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