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Phil Hill
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posted 02-11-2008 06:00 PM

quote: Michael Coate
Hey, Phil...I thought I was the "Obit Guy"!

Sorry Mike, didn't mean to steal away your fire, but I came across that important story on AP and posted it. [Wink]

Cheers bub. [beer]

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 02-11-2008 06:26 PM

Scheider's passing is sad news. Had to look up Multiple Myloma to see what it was (pretty bad disease to get).

Scheider will be long remembered for his role in the now classic Jaws. He was really good in a lot of other movies. 52 Pick Up was one of very few movies released by Cannon Films that I really liked.

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Robert W. Jones
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posted 02-11-2008 06:33 PM

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Spielberg has been accused of being a hack for ripping off that treadmill (i.e. dolly-zoom combo) technique, but I dare anyone to claim its use in "Jaws" as ineffective!

My absolute favorite scene in the entire film. Did it build tension? YES!

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 02-11-2008 07:01 PM

Even if that dolly-zoom camera shot in Jaws was ripped off from elsewhere, the one in Jaws is the most well known example of it.

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Robert W. Jones
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posted 02-11-2008 07:28 PM

Verna Fields editing made the scene work.

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David Stambaugh
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posted 02-11-2008 09:08 PM

Verna Fields' Oscar for editing "Jaws" was very well-deserved.

Some examples of "dolly zoom" shots, including the one with Roy Scheider from "Jaws".

YouTube dolly zoom clip

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John Wilson
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posted 02-12-2008 04:09 AM

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Spielberg has been accused of being a hack for ripping off that treadmill (i.e. dolly-zoom combo) technique, but I dare anyone to claim its use in "Jaws" as ineffective!

He may not have invented it (I knew it as the 'Hitchcock Zoom'...tried it once but near impossible without the proper gear) but it sure was copied from JAWS for years after.

One scene can have a very long aftershock.

[thumbsup]

Good on you, Steven.

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John Walsh
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posted 02-12-2008 07:35 AM

I always liked Roy, too. Sorry to see him go.

As far as ripping of 'shots' like the zoom-dolly thing, just about everyone has ripped off everyone else' shots over the years! I'm sure someone out there will say that the zoom-dolly thing was first done by DWG!

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Mike Blakesley
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posted 02-12-2008 10:28 AM

I agree the dolly/zoom shot in JAWS is one of the best in the film. I think the visual is really enhanced by the music at that point too. The Jaws score is one of the best ever IMHO. Scheider is great in the Brody role for sure, but that's one movie where the entire machine was firing on all cylinders. Even the fact that the shark "didn't work" most of the time made the movie better.

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David Stambaugh
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posted 02-12-2008 11:11 AM

The "Jaws" dolly zoom shot effect seems even more effective by the use of an anamorphic lens.

Another seldom-seen Roy Scheider gem is "Cohen & Tate".

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Alan Plester
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posted 02-12-2008 12:53 PM

very sorry to learn yesterday...Jaws was and still is one of my top 5 films, he will be sadly missed, great actor

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John Walsh
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posted 02-12-2008 02:14 PM

You know, an offbeat film of his I really liked was, "Sorcerer" but hardly anyone (outside of people in the movie biz) have seen it.

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Chad Souder
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posted 02-20-2008 05:59 PM

quote: David Stambaugh
The correct version is "You're gonna need a bigger boat"

That line was improvised by Scheider and it turns out to be one of the biggest in movie history.

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Phil Blake
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posted 02-21-2008 12:27 AM

quote: Phil Hill
Obviously, the scene with sunken boat with the "pop-out" body made an impression on her.

I think I was about 13 when I saw Jaws and that scene still sticks in my mind scared the hell out of me [Eek!]

In the 80's I remember screening Jaws 1, 2 & 3 as a triple marathon at the Drive In , next morning I went fishing in a small 16' boat , the trip was nervous and short I might add and those words "bigger Boat" kept ringing in my head.

quote: John Wilson
Roy Scheider brought a realism to almost every role he played. You believed it was really a person and not just a character.

Well said John

RIP
Roy

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