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Author Topic: New Star Wars: Clone Wars cartoon getting Aug. 15 WB theatrical release Jonathan Worthing Master Film Handler Posts: 384 From: Hereford, UK Registered: Apr 2001 posted 03-19-2008 04:43 AM                     Same Different day As if I need an excuse to watch less TV.  |  IP: Logged Anslem Rayburn Master Film Handler Posts: 476 From: Yuma, AZ, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 03-19-2008 07:01 AM                     quote: Mike Schindler He's got a team of talented people whom he can turn to at any time in order to develop a quality product. He should have turned to them to do his prequels, then. I have felt for a long time he is only interested in making money. That's why he goes back to the Star Wars well over and over and over and over and over... He has graced us with fine films (Willow, American Graffiti, and (yes, I'll say it) Howard the Duck), but he has worn out the Star Wars franchise. A groundbreaking cinematic effort, a really original and imaginative idea. He has turned it into a money-making machine that people continue to lap up. I don't get it, and I never will. quote: "You've got the whole assembly line built, and then you say, 'Hey, we can make up something," This quote, to me, says that he doesn't care about the quality of the product. It screams that he feels he can just take the premise, make something up, and sell it. Why not, he's already spent the cash to build the factory, he might as well pump something out of it. It should sell whether it's good or bad. I shall refer to any further Star Wars "products" as the Lucas Edsel.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Worthing Master Film Handler Posts: 384 From: Hereford, UK Registered: Apr 2001 posted 03-19-2008 07:13 AM                      |  IP: Logged Mike Schindler Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1039 From: Oak Park, IL, USA Registered: Jun 2002 posted 03-19-2008 09:55 AM                     quote: Anslem Rayburn He has graced us with fine films (Willow, American Graffiti, and (yes, I'll say it) Howard the Duck), but he has worn out the Star Wars franchise. Wait. WILLOW? I was expecting THX 1138 or RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, but WILLOW? Shoot. I'd take CARAVAN OF COURAGE: AN EWOK ADVENTURE over WILLOW. I'm definitely in the minority with my support of Lucas. Don't get me wrong. There are things which he does which drive me up the wall. His blatant disrespect for the artists that make movies for him is highly offensive. But as far as his own work is concerned, I think it's top notch. He may not be the best writer or director, but he consistently turns out 4-star movies. Really, the only thing that concerns me about THE CLONE WARS is that he's giving it to other people to do. Sure, he tends to hire filmmakers like Irvin Kershner and Steven Spielberg who are better at making movies than he is. But occasionally, someone like Ron Howard slips through the cracks, and we end up with WILLOW. But everything I've seen and heard regarding THE CLONE WARS makes me think it'll be great. In fact, I predict it'll be the best movie of the year. And this year's gonna kick some ass.  |  IP: Logged Greg Anderson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 766 From: Ogden Valley, Utah Registered: Nov 1999 posted 03-20-2008 01:16 PM                        In the teaser trailer for WALL E we're told that the guys from Pixar sat down together for lunch and, in a single day, started tossing out ideas that became several hit movies. Who's to say that George Lucas doesn't hear ideas from creative people like that, whom he's learned to trust? And why wouldn't he be inclined to say, "Great. Let's make those ideas into movies" and expect them to be good movies? Certainly, when I sit down with my friends and co-workers and we toss around movie ideas over lunch, we probably won't have many ideas that reach that level. But we're not big-time Hollywood movie makers. And we don't casually expect each other to have great ideas. And George Lucas doesn't ask me what he should do next. So... the "assembly line means bad movies" concept just doesn't wash. That's our perception... not Lucas'. And he doesn't hire just any unskilled worker off the street to "turn the bolts" that make his movies come together. George Lucas takes financial risks all the time. And his support of technological advancement shouldn't be easily dismissed, especially by technically-minded people like those who frequent these forums. Nobody can honestly say that George Lucas doesn't love great filmmakers, great filmmaking and great movies.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 03-20-2008 03:38 PM                     quote: Greg Anderson So... the "assembly line means bad movies" concept just doesn't wash. That's our perception... not Lucas'. "Our perception" is something that is gained through many years of watching Hollywood movies and judging the product for what it is whether it's good or bad. You don't have to be a successful filmmaker to have a valid opinion on this matter. Being a frequent paying customer is definitely enough. Most creative product that is churned out in any sort of rapid, assembly line manner is usually crap. Does anyone really think the "assembly line" approach is anything new? Video stores are choking from the glut of such product. The vast majority of releases on DVD are this kind of product. Low budget, straight to video, short stay in the stores and then on to the landfill. Go to The Digital Bits' website and check their upcoming DVD cover art section. There's dozens of releases every week. And they're not even showing all the porn titles coming out either. Major Hollywood studio films make up a tiny percentage of what comes out on video. Major movie releases are put together mainly just to make money too. But since lots of creative egos are involved, as well as the egos of various producers and others industry types, there seems to be a little more incentive to make that kind of product not quite as forgettable as the giant tide of straight to video fare. This Clone Wars animated movie seems very far removed from anything that could be considered assembly line style movie making. It's not the sort of thing where the entire writing, shooting and posting schedule is crammed into a month or less.  |  IP: Logged Martin Brooks Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 900 From: Forest Hills, NY, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 03-22-2008 11:15 AM                        You might not like the results, but I don't think that Lucas is only concerned with profits. If he were, you would have seen a lot more Star Wars offshoots than you've seen since the release of Episode III (2005). Also, I think a lot of the criticism of the last three Star Wars films has been unfair (and I am far from being a Star Wars geek). People have decided that they hate Lucas' success and they'll find reasons to hate his films no matter what. It's not that the films were beyond criticism, but they weren't as bad as people made out, especially the last one. I think ten years from now, people will take a revisionist view and those films will be far better appreciated than they are today, although the CGI will probably seem worse by then than it does today, just as the effects in the 1978 Superman looks absurdly tacky today, but seemed pretty good at the time of original release.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-12-2008 11:22 PM                        This movie is getting pretty close...how's the buzz in your neck of the woods? I put up the poster for the first time tonight and there was a crowd of excited kids around it after the movie. Does this look like a hit?  |  IP: Logged Mark Lensenmayer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1605 From: Upper Arlington, OH Registered: Sep 1999 posted 06-13-2008 07:29 AM                     Anyone started a LINE yet? I would expect one soon somewhere. SW Geeks haven't had much to do lately...this will give them a chance to reunite.  |  IP: Logged Mike Schindler Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1039 From: Oak Park, IL, USA Registered: Jun 2002 posted 06-13-2008 10:11 AM                     The trailer that came with THE INCREDIBLE HULK looks very promising. People cheered during our Midnight show.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-13-2008 10:52 AM                        Mike - which trailer number did you get? We got a trailer for it yesterday and I'm going to add it to Indiana Jones tonight.  |  IP: Logged Mike Schindler Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1039 From: Oak Park, IL, USA Registered: Jun 2002 posted 06-13-2008 02:20 PM                     I think it was #3. I don't think there was a #2.  |  IP: Logged

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