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John Walsh
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 - posted 03-30-2008 09:49 AM      Profile for John Walsh   Email John Walsh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I read an article awhile ago that suggested technology might be moving slower than it was 40-50 years ago. Back then, inventors and scientists wanted to freely publish their findings, not for money, but for the 'honor.' This sharing allowed people to build on the work of others. Today, though, companies try to keep things secret to prevent competition.

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Jim Cassedy
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 - posted 03-30-2008 10:29 AM      Profile for Jim Cassedy   Email Jim Cassedy   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Amazing story!
What I found particulary fascinating was this line:
"The existence of a tuning-fork calibration trace allows us to compensate for the irregular recording speed of the hand-cranked cylinder. "

WoW! Almost like a primitave sync or time-code track!

I recall reading a story several years ago where someone had managed to restore the voice of Alexander Graham Bell originally recorded by his "Photophone" system onto a strip of photo sensitized paper. The recording sounded like the one in the story above, only worse.

(And remember: if it wasn't for A.G Bell, we'd all be carrying around cellular telegraphs!)
[Big Grin]

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Tim Reed
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 - posted 03-30-2008 12:21 PM      Profile for Tim Reed   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Jim, the tuning fork thing blew me away, too. He inadvertently created a pilot tone.

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Jim Cassedy
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quote: Tim Reed
He inadvertently created a pilot tone.

Ah yes..."pilot-tone" that's the word I was searching for!
It's a more accurate description of the tuning fork concept than I wrote in my post.

Haven't heard that phrase since my film school days many years ago.

FYI> Here's an actual photo (WoW!) of a phonoautograph, from the Institute Of Electrical Engineering archives.
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As you can see, it's pretty simple. Just a needle attached to a diagphram at the end of a horn. The needle scratches a "waveform" of the sound captured by the horn onto a piece of paper covered with lampblack. (soot)
No tubes, no wires, no chips! (and no motor- it was hand cranked)

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Mark J. Marshall
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 - posted 03-31-2008 09:13 AM      Profile for Mark J. Marshall     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That's truly amazing.

Thanks for posting that story, Tim.

[thumbsup]

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