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Author Topic: Linksys sucks Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 06-20-2008 10:54 AM                     quote: Allison Parsons In no way shape or form can I link AT&T with your issue, but like I said, we've had issues with both as well. One problem with the DSL service from AT&T is the various kinds of DSL modems they supply to customers. Some of the newer ones are little pieces of cheap, plastic shit. They often don't work with better quality after market routers worth a damn. AT&T is always trying to steer customers into some overprice 2Wire crap they sell. I have an Efficient Networks SpeedStream DSL modem that's nearly 10 years old. It's a fairly large device, but has good build quality to it. Most of the time it works very well. The little black plastic doo-hickeys AT&T changed to years ago are less reliable. quote: Mark Lensenmayer I running a Linksys WRT54GL router that allows 3rd party software. Be careful about applying any firmware updates for it. Your 3rd party software may stop working. Just about any new Linksys router you buy is now unable to run 3rd party software due to some changes Linksys made in the firmware to prevent it. Some of this has to do with gouging customers for more money on other networking purposes, such as running game adapters. I was looking into buying another Wi-Fi router to run in "bridge" mode so I could connect some Internet capable pieces of home theater gear. It used to be possible to take a Linksys WRT54G or other similar routers, hack the firmware and convert it into a wireless bridge. You get 4 more LAN ports jumping across Wi-Fi "g" to your main router for around $50. Linksys and other companies couldn't have any of that so they did what all they could to make it at least very difficult if not impossible to run 3rd party software on the device. They want you spending $70-$100 per LAN-connected entertainment device for Wi-Fi connection. It's just bullshit that will create more pressure for electronics companies to incorporate Wi-Fi into devices themselves. I'm glad my Playstation 3 already has Wi-Fi built into it.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 06-20-2008 11:30 AM                        quote: My Father always has to replace the darn thing every year due to lightning storms!!!!! I had a WAG354G which failed during a thunderstorm. Immediately after a flash of lightning, the 'sync' LED went out, and no amount of rebooting could get it back again. It was replaced under warranty, but the replacement did seem to get gradually slower and drop the line more often as time went on. Eventually, wondering if the problem was my ADSL service or the router, I tried another router - a 3Com job a friend gave me after he changed ISPs and got a free router from his new one. It was (and still is) a significant improvement: while the service is still very slow at peak times (weekday evenings, mainly), the sudden line dropping has stopped. On that basis I'd be very unlikely to buy another Linksys.  |  IP: Logged Jason Burroughs Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 654 From: Allen, TX Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-20-2008 11:36 AM                     I have a version 2.0 Linksys WRT54G that I've had for years and without any problems running either Linksys firmware or 3rd party. I haven't had problems with any other Linksys equipment, other than a few power "bricks" going bad, but this isn't Linksys' fault and could happen to any manufacturer. The bad bricks started causing the need for frequent reboots. When I upgrade to allow for 802.11n I will be using a Linksys for that. Deffinatly stay away from their software for easy configuration. Manual configuration is the way to go. From what I have seen, now that Linksys is a division of Cisco the quality of their products has increased and has apparently been able to leverage some of Cisco's talent pool.  |  IP: Logged Evans A Criswell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1579 From: Huntsville, AL, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 06-20-2008 02:00 PM                        I've used two Linksys home routers, one of which is wireless and has been in use since January 2006, with no problems. The wired one served me well long before I got the wireless one, and it still works too.  |  IP: Logged Rick Raskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1100 From: Manassas Virginia Registered: Jan 2003 posted 06-20-2008 05:40 PM                     A friend wanted to go wireless and we tried a Linksys. Couldn't get the darn thing to DHCP from the DSL modem. Tried planting an IP and that also was worthless. Finally went with Netgear -- No problems. When I tried to convert my home I tried a new out of the box Linksys and it wouldn't see the internet. Never mind that the internet light on the router was lit. They've dumbed them down so much you can't really get very far into the system. Returned it and got a deal on a MD'd GigaFast MIMO. That one was plug and play and no issues to date. Does Linksys suck? I'd have to agree.  |  IP: Logged Mark Lensenmayer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1605 From: Upper Arlington, OH Registered: Sep 1999 posted 06-20-2008 06:49 PM                     quote: Bobby Henderson Be careful about applying any firmware updates for it. Your 3rd party software may stop working. The DD-WRT software replaces the standard firmware.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-20-2008 07:03 PM                        Brad--you do realize that Linksys is just disposable consumer-grade stuff, right? You should get a Cisco 1700- or 2600-series router off Ebay and a Proxim (or similar) wireless access point. Total overkill for what you want to do (which I assume is just NAT and wireless access for your home cable/DSL/whatever connection), but this stuff should be rock solid and only minimally more expensive.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 06-20-2008 07:31 PM                     quote: Brad Miller Today I bought an Apple Airport Extreme... Too late! Besides, anything Steve Jobs releases HAS to be awesome, right? I mean, Apple products are perfect, just like anything digital, right?  |  IP: Logged Joshua Waaland Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 800 From: Cleveland, Ohio Registered: Dec 1999 posted 06-20-2008 09:05 PM                     We had a Linksys router at work and had to replace it several times as well as reboot it all the time. I have one now and it is giving me fits. Model WRT54G. I also have a cable company supplied cable modem (Scientific Atlanta) and I have to reset it every half hour. We also had a Scientific Atlanta cable box on our tv and we are on the fifth or six one in less than two years. Everything from locking up to cooling fans squealing. Scientific Atlanta sucks too! I'm actually in the market for a new all-in-one cable modem/4 port switch/WI-FI router right now. I would also like it to incorporate VOIP if possible too. Less hardware on my desk and less to go bad. We are going to switch our phone over to Time Warner and bundle our cable, phone and internet access to save money. Linksys is the only company I have found with a product to meet most of these requirements. Anyone have any suggestions on a manufacturer or model to look for?  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 06-20-2008 10:08 PM                     So far, at least 7 years of good luck with a Netgear RP-114 "Web Safe" Router. Haven't had to reboot it thru anything it did (sometimes have to after my DSL modem burps) and it has an excellent domain blocking function that can do specific domain names or by keywords.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 06-21-2008 02:01 AM                        quote: Brad Miller Apple products are perfect, just like anything digital, right? Yes. Take the Mac computer, for example. It does not crash, ever. In fact it is physically impossible for it to crash for any reason. It always does what you want, when you want and how you want it done all faster than you can imagine the result. If you have a Mac that crashes on you or does something odd, well, you must be dreaming or having a reeeeaaalll bad meth trip because Macs don't crash!  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 06-21-2008 08:05 AM                     You mean like when my Mac didn't crash the other night when I called you about it?  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 06-21-2008 10:53 AM                        Correct. We both had the same dream simultaneously from our own unique perspectives. Dreaming that a Mac crashes is like dreaming that we all have aardvark snouts for legs and eyeballs made out of cottage cheese... it's just so far disconnected from reality.  |  IP: Logged Joshua Waaland Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 800 From: Cleveland, Ohio Registered: Dec 1999 posted 06-21-2008 01:22 PM                     Our VP of IT at work bought a Mac Notebook when Vista first came out. He was hearing about all of Vista's problems and was looking into going to all Mac. Last week when I saw him I asked why he was still using his old Dell and he told me he gave the Mac notebook to someone else. He said it crashed all the time and gave him lots of problems. In his opinion it wasn't any better than any PC he had ever used. Anyone have any experience with the Linksys WCG200 ?  |  IP: Logged Evans A Criswell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1579 From: Huntsville, AL, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 06-23-2008 01:39 PM                        I've been extremely pleased with both my Apple MacBooks, my Mac Mini, and my newest iMac, but that Apple wireless router (Airport Extreme or whatever they call it) was the biggest piece of crap I ever tried to use. I went back to my Linksys because my Winders box could not see the Apple router no matter how I tinkered with the settings. My friend's Linux laptop couldn't see it either. The option of attaching an external drive and accessing it through the wireless network is why I bought it, but it just wouldn't work reliably (not even with my Macs!). It worked sometimes, but most of the time, it would not. It was the biggest piece of dung I ever bought with an Apple logo on it. But for the Mac computers, yes, Joe and Brad, they do not crash. If something were to be trying to cause a Mac to crash, Mr. Powdered Toast Man himself would appear and divinely intervene and prevent the kernel fault.  |  IP: Logged

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