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Gerard S. Cohen
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Another reason many people, especially new cellphone users, talk so loudly is that they are used to the feedback of their own voices when speaking on landlines. Since there is no such awareness of one's own voice on a celllphone, the user unconsciously speaks more loudly to make sure he/she is being heard. New users can often be heard shouting, and in my office
I sometimes cannot understand incoming calls because the volume is so loud the voice is is distorted and unintelligible. I have to ask the caller to speak mre softly or to hold the phone away from the face to be understood.

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Bruce McGee
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This is a timely topic.

Thursday morning, going to work, I was almost sideswiped on the Smoky Park Highway bridge by a girl that was yapping away on the cell phone. I swerved to the right and hit my horn, but she didnt notice shit. She came on across 2 more lanes before she stopped this mad lane change. Granted, my car is 24 years old, and not particularly good to look at, but I sure dont want this bitch to alter its body style! She was just laughing her head off as I came by her in my car. What a dolt.

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John Wilson
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(Leans evilly into microphone...)

"Kill her"

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Mike Blakesley
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quote:
the feedback of their own voices when speaking on landlines. Since there is no such awareness of one's own voice on a celllphone,
Question: Why is it not possible to provide that feedback on cell phones? Is that technology not developed yet or what?

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Robert Minichino
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That feedback is called "sidetone," and I have no idea why it's not implemented in all mobile phones. Background noise is generally higher on mobiles than it is on a landline (think of the places where people use it; car, crowded stores, etc.), but a bit of noise reduction added in should make it work perfectly. In my cynical view, it's not a marketable feature so the phone product managers won't give the engineers the go ahead to add it into the product.

EDIT: From what I understand, sidetone was actually invented and added to phones after telephone researchers noticed people unconsciously yelling at the other party. Those who don't learn from history, blah blah blah....

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Sam Graham
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If you ever talk on your cell to somebody next to you, you'll realize there's actually a slight delay before what you say comes out on the other side.

In the early days of digital mobile phones, we in the industry saw problems where people would complain of echoing that was the result of them hearing themselves back because one of the parties had their earpiece cranked and the microphone would pick it up.

I suspect that's the reason "sidetone" doesn't exist in mobile phones today. They couldn't just reflect back the processed conversation...there would have to be a whole secondary processing within the handset itself.

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Andy Frodsham
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I still wonder how we survived before cell phones were let loose on the public?

It amazes me that I see people in supermarkets (Cell phone to ear) asking someone on the other end whether they want a red or blue something-or-other. You later see the same people, this time in another aisle, (still glued to the phone) asking if the other party wants sliced or unsliced! Why can't they just make a shopping list before they set-off?

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