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Mark J. Marshall
Film God

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From: New Castle, DE, USA
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 - posted 08-27-2008 08:46 AM      Profile for Mark J. Marshall     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Regal should spend more time trying to figure out how to keep their prints from scratching, their digital sound from dropping out and their SR tuned correctly. At least here in Delaware.

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Tim Reed
Better Projection Pays

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 - posted 08-27-2008 11:06 AM      Profile for Tim Reed   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sorry to hear this, Galen. If you are fired, at least you have a better chance at drawing unemployment insurance than if you quit.

From something you said earlier in this thread, I gathered who you might work for. Before that, however, I had no idea - and it didn't really matter. We're all just exchanging thoughts and ideas here, not conspiring to overthrow or cost anyone their jobs.

Good luck with the job search. You sound very interested in the technical aspects of this business. Start studying basic electronics (getting a ham license is a good beginning), then you can move into field service. Always a demand for that. I started one booth job in the 70s and didn't know the first thing about electricity or electronics. After a couple years of reading books in the booth (between changeovers), I'd learned enough electronics to get hired as a sub-contractor for Altec!

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Bill Gabel
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 - posted 08-27-2008 12:22 PM      Profile for Bill Gabel   Email Bill Gabel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Galen, Sorry to hear about what happened. It may have been that no one ratted you out, but someone doing a search of your name on Yahoo or Google and it turning up a subject or posts you did on the FT site. And remember watch out what you post on the net, there are lurkers out there. And you should have waited or toned down your post till the dust settled. Because one of your posts says you Quit, they could be shits and print it and use that against you in collecting unemployment money.

quote: Joshua Waaland
Unfortunately, most theaters gave up caring about good presentation long ago and your just another minimum wage person to them.
That's the truth about some companies out there. But there are many operators that do 110% on the job, but the companies keep this once profitable profession in the minimum wage area. Good luck in the future, but watch what words you use on the net.

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Galen Murphy-Fahlgren
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From: Canton, MI, USA
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 - posted 08-27-2008 03:30 PM      Profile for Galen Murphy-Fahlgren   Email Galen Murphy-Fahlgren   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thank you everyone for your support. I think it is a sad statement as to the low regard real projectionists are held in by most companies that many people have a similar story, or at least understand my situation. I am probably among the least of projectionists on these forums in skill, which is why I was attracted to post here in the first place. Who wants an environment where they can't learn more about a trade they are passionate about?

Looking carefully over some of my posts, I believe I see what my old "superiors" are upset about, but I didn't post any criticism of the company on here that I hadn't expressed to them and been ignored, nor did I post the name of the company or the name of any individual. I also don't know why they would be upset over me venting to professional projectionists, none of whom would work for them at their wages. I still believe their response and actions towards me are the result of massive ego and an unwillingness to listen, especially to someone young such as myself.

Prior to this incident, I had mostly enjoyed working there due to the free reign given me by the theater manager. It was when I could not solve a problem on my own and tried to look higher for help, or when I was held back by a lack of necessary supplies, that I became frustrated and unhappy. A few weeks ago, that company took what I considered to be a very positive step forward in projection with the creation of a new position, but the implementation that I heard of it was much too little, too late. So, despite my difficulties with them, I really do hope, for the sake of my friends and family in the company's employ, that they can tone down the ego, get serious about projection, and have the kind of booth I was trying to create at my theater.

In any case, quitting was the only option acceptable to me, and I would rather quit and subsist off of my savings than be fired and have that held against me. I am glad to be able to leave on good terms with the theater manager, since he and I shared an interest in doing things the right way, and for the opportunities he gave me while I was there.

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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 08-27-2008 03:53 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Projectionists were hated when they were union (or because they were union) and now that unions have pretty much been done away with, it still is not good enough! Projectionists must be called Usher-Bs or they will unionize (fantastic logic, there) and they must not get a decent wage and there must not be someone in the booth at all times. Of course there are always exceptions here and there... usually at the better run theaters.

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Mike Blakesley
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 - posted 08-27-2008 04:30 PM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm just a naive small-town guy, but what possible harm could come to a company because their employee posts on Film-Tech? As long as company numbers and building plans aren't being posted (and even those aren't exactly huge secrets these days) what's the worry? It's not like everyone on the planet reads this site.

Seems to me they are worried about embarassment more than anything else, at the crappy way they treat their employees and/or equipment.

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John Wilson
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 - posted 08-27-2008 08:22 PM      Profile for John Wilson   Email John Wilson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Bingo.

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Allison Parsons
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 - posted 08-27-2008 08:47 PM      Profile for Allison Parsons   Author's Homepage   Email Allison Parsons   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Galen,

Was this the only theatre you've ever worked at?

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Galen Murphy-Fahlgren
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 - posted 08-27-2008 09:59 PM      Profile for Galen Murphy-Fahlgren   Email Galen Murphy-Fahlgren   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Allison, yes this was my first real job, in fact. I got a job on the floor during my last semester in high school and worked my way up to booth supervisor (a position not given to staffers at this theater) within less than a year. I'd previously had a number of under the table jobs and that sort of thing, and I had a couple other part time jobs I scheduled around work at the theater over the past year. Sometimes I would work at the theater 'til closing, sleep a couple of hours, and go work an 8 hour shift at the steel factory or for the contractor I worked, but I would always have plenty of energy when I got back to the theater that night to time a bunch of platter decks or build a few prints and break down a couple in between starts.

And, for what it's worth, this whole issue was apparently based on my last posting in this thread. To me, that is an utterly innocuous complaint about how badly Barco sucks, and how their 24 hour phone line is almost never answered. So, for those Goodrich'rs reading this up in Kentwood or Saginaw, I hope you realize how stupid you've been.

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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 - posted 08-27-2008 10:14 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I bet it was due to Mark G's response that they felt hurt and had to do something. They just need to know that Mark G is like that.

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Galen Murphy-Fahlgren
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 - posted 08-27-2008 10:51 PM      Profile for Galen Murphy-Fahlgren   Email Galen Murphy-Fahlgren   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Joe, you are probably right. My feelings are easily hurt by a tech 2000 miles away. [Razz]

Also, why is my link messed up and why could I not format it so "this" didn't have a space in it. Ya'lls forum software is sort of weird. Wait Brad, I didn't mean it, please don't demote me!

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Adam Martin
I'm not even gonna point out the irony.

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 - posted 08-27-2008 11:35 PM      Profile for Adam Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Adam Martin       Edit/Delete Post 
Your link has been repaired.

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Chris Slycord
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 - posted 08-28-2008 12:37 AM      Profile for Chris Slycord   Email Chris Slycord   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Galen Murphy-Fahlgren
And, for what it's worth, this whole issue was apparently based on my last posting in this thread. To me, that is an utterly innocuous complaint about how badly Barco sucks, and how their 24 hour phone line is almost never answered. So, for those Goodrich'rs reading this up in Kentwood or Saginaw, I hope you realize how stupid you've been.
I bet it's more related to the comment you made before that one where you were bad-mouthing corporate monetary and training decisions followed by your own insinuation that their decisions put your job in jeopardy or that you were considering quitting. They probably didn't want their "dirty laundry" put out for everyone to see (even if it really needed to happen).

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Galen Murphy-Fahlgren
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 - posted 08-28-2008 10:40 AM      Profile for Galen Murphy-Fahlgren   Email Galen Murphy-Fahlgren   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Chris, I can sort of see that, but what I meant by saying that was that I found Barco's service unbelievably poor considering. I also expressed a very real concern over my job security as they went to a digital booth. I may have been quite to the point regarding the poor wisdom of having the two largest screens in the theater digital when there were long play obligations in effect for extremely terrible/poor performing movies, but that was a concern I tried to express to them and was, once again, brushed off. I meant that post as a criticism of Barco, though I suppose there were elements of displeasure towards some things the company was doing.

Either way, I feel the appropriate, professional thing to do would have been to talk to me. If they'd taken issue with one of my statements and been willing to discuss the issue, I probably would have edited it and curtailed future discussions of what they perceived to be sensitive issues. However, I was never told that there was a specific limitation on my ability to discuss my livelihood with like minded individuals, and was told after the fact that I was being demoted over it and my career there put to an abrupt halt. In fact, I would still be willing to discuss it with them, but restraint is now out of the question and I will not return to their employ.

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Chris Slycord
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 - posted 08-28-2008 10:58 AM      Profile for Chris Slycord   Email Chris Slycord   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The concern of your's was brushed off because, most likely, the person you were talking to isn't the person who makes those kinds of decisions and is simply going with whatever was agreed upon in a contract by higher-ups.

And yes it'd be nice if they had said something to you beforehand, but I imagine from their perspective "being professional" doesn't involve airing the company's "dirty laundry."

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