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Sally Ann Burgess
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posted 10-03-2008 08:14 PM

The Academy (correct me if I am wrong) seem to have a habit of righting their wrongs. Heath Ledger lost out to Phillip Seymour Hoffman for Best Actor a couple of years back, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who thought he was robbed. If Heath doesn't win Best Supporting Actor, I'm a monkey's uncle. Even if I am a girl.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 10-03-2008 11:50 PM

Supporting actor? He was the whole show!

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 10-04-2008 01:41 AM

quote: Chad Souder
The final straw for me was for 2001, when Denzel won for Training Day over Crowe again in Beautiful mind and Sean Penn in I Am Sam and Ewan McGregor wasn't even nominated for Moulin Rouge.

Didn't you see Tropic Thunder and listen to the critical lesson explained by award winning actor Kirk Lazarus? Sean Penn didn't get the Oscar because he went "full retard!"

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Anslem Rayburn
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posted 10-04-2008 06:59 AM

I think Heath Ledger is nominated, and wins, best supporting actor.

The Dark Knight was HIS movie, but he will not be recognized as lead actor. Mr. Ledger made the movie, and I feel it was a Joker movie, but the Academy will not feel the same. Christian Bale, in the "lead" role as the Dark Knight will be viewed as the main character.

I will even say that he (Heath Ledger) will compete against Gary Oldman in the best supporting actor category, and Mr. Oldman will lose. And Mr. Oldman will cheerfully (and maybe tearfully) give it to him, as Gary Oldman will have more opportunities...

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Mike Blakesley
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posted 10-04-2008 09:56 AM

Heath Ledger has the same problem Christopher Reeve had in the 1970s Superman movies. Of course Supe was the main character, but Gene Hackman (Lex Luthor) got top billing in the first two movies. Even Marlon Brando was billed over Reeve.

I might have to amend my prediction. If Ledger is nominated for Best Supporting Actor I think he has a good chance. For best actor, I still think he would lose, however unfairly.

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Chad Souder
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posted 10-08-2008 08:29 PM

quote: Anslem Rayburn
The Dark Knight was HIS movie, but he will not be recognized as lead actor.

I believe (and someone correct me if I'm wrong here) the Academy's stardard of lead is based on screen time, either a percentage or actual minutes. That's why they changed it to "Actor/tress in a leading role" instead of "lead actor/tress" some years ago. Using Training Day as an example, Ethan Hawke was clearly the character the story was based on, but changing the title of the award and the definition of that award allowed them to classify Denzel as leading.

quote: Mike Blakesley
Heath Ledger has the same problem Christopher Reeve had in the 1970s Superman movies. Of course Supe was the main character, but Gene Hackman (Lex Luthor) got top billing in the first two movies. Even Marlon Brando was billed over Reeve.

Those are completely different scenarios. Ledger was an established actor. Of course Reeve got third billing; nobody knew who he was. Hackman and Brando (especially Brando) and Ned Beatty were specifically cast by Richard Donner (likely with studio influence) for their star power because Donner wanted an unknown to play Superman. Superhero movies were dead at the time, so there was great uncertainty about how many people would want to see Superman. Bryan Singer paid tribute to Donner's vision by casting Brandon Routh instead of one of scores of made actors wanting the part, but with much greater confidence in the new movies' attraction, they didn't need the stars to accompany the unknown.

The new Batman franchise, on the other hand, is LOADED with stars. Bale, Caine, Eckhart, Holmes, Oldman, Freeman, Neeson, Wilkenson... not to mention Anthony Michael Hall. Ledger, honestly, was a man among giants who at the very least held his own. I'd rather see Gary Oldman nominated for best supporting. He was fantastic.

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Mike Schindler
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posted 10-09-2008 12:47 AM

Actually, the decision of whether a performance is a leading role or a supporting role is up to the individual voter. Here's the official rule from the Academy:

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A performance by an actor or actress in any role shall be eligible for nomination either for the leading role or supporting role categories. If, however, all the dialogue has been dubbed by another actor, the performance shall not be eligible for award consideration. Singing that is dubbed will not affect the performer’s eligibility unless it constitutes the entire performance. The determination as to whether a role is a leading or supporting role shall be made individually by members of the branch at the time of balloting.

The leading role and supporting role categories will be tabulated simultaneously. If any performance should receive votes in both categories, the achievement shall be only placed on the ballot in that category in which, during the tabulation process, it first receives the required number of votes to be nominated. In the event that the performance receives the numbers of votes required to be nominated in both categories simultaneously, the achievement shall be placed only on the ballot in that category in which it receives the greater percentage of the total votes.

Of course, the studios push for one or the other so as not to split the vote.

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Martin McCaffery
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posted 10-09-2008 09:40 AM

As it was just on TCM, this reminds me of In The Heat of the Night. Although we remember it as a Sidney Portier movie, Rod Steiger won Best Actor, for which he certianly deserved the nom.

That said, do the Academy Awards really mean anything? I watch for Best Bad Dress, Worst Production Number and Most Embarassing Speech;>

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Chad Souder
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posted 10-09-2008 02:49 PM

quote: Mike Schindler
Actually, the decision of whether a performance is a leading role or a supporting role is up to the individual voter.

Wow, I was way off. Not sure where I heard that. Leaving it up to the individual voter makes no sense, but then neither does the Academy most of the time.

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Sally Ann Burgess
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posted 10-10-2008 11:57 PM

This fresh off IMDB.....

Rourke + Langella Are Early Oscars Favourites

10 October 2008 10:31 AM, PDT

Frank Langella and Mickey Rourke will wrestle it out for next year's Best Actor Oscar, while Frost/Nixon, Milk and The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button are musts for Best Film nominations, according to Academy Awards experts.

Revered movie awards watchers at GoldDerby.com have teamed up with a panel of top U.S. film critics for the first Oscars prediction list of the year.

The team agrees Harvey Milk biopic Milk and Brad Pitt's new movie Button will compete for the Best Film prize with the movie adaptation of hit play Frost/Nixon, while Rourke and Langella have emerged as the critics' favourites for Best Actor for The Wrestler and Frost/Nixon respectively.
All of the critics' other forecasts are split.
In the Best Picture race, Slumdog Millionaire is also a favourite of the expert panel, while Dev Patel (Slumdog Millionaire), Cate Blanchett (The Curious Case of Benjamin Button), Michael Sheen (Frost/Nixon) and Michelle Williams (Wendy and Lucy) all garner at least one vote in respective Best Actor and Best Actress categories.

The Oscar nominations will be announced on 22 January.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 10-11-2008 12:15 AM

Front/Nixon looks about as exciting as liquefied diarrhea. That means it will probably win Best Picture.

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Bill Gabel
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posted 11-13-2008 04:04 PM

Well the executive committee of the Academy Music branch has disqualified the score for the film "The Dark Knight". The big issue was the fact that 5 names were listed as composers on the music cue sheet the official studio document issued to the Academy. Fear not their previous collaboration, on "Batman Begins", was similarly disqualified in 2005. Maybe they will get it right the now time around.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 11-13-2008 04:48 PM

Its not like the current Batman movies will be remembered for their score. I can only remember two notes from it... the same two they use again and again.

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Caleb Johnstone-Cowan
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posted 11-13-2008 11:56 PM

I thought the score for Dark Knight was fantastic. It sat in the background throughout, but rose and fell at the right times. Felt the simplicity worked well, didn't detract from the action set pieces or any of the performances.

I have seen both parts of Che and Benicio Del Toro will get a nomination for sure, might win if the voters are watching it as one four-hour epic. Can't see that the two parts were ever intended to run as one feature, presented in different aspect ratios for a start. Would guess at nominations for cinematography and director as well. Also maybe a technical win for whoever made the 16mm anamorphic lens they used in part one, understand that is a first.

Saw I Loved You So Long on Wednesday, Kristin Scott Thomas might get best actress. Very strong performance backed up by a great narrative that makes you think and question yourself a lot during the film.

Wall-E will win Best Animated Feature.

Another Way To Die (the Bond theme) will get nominated, quality song and they get a good segment for the telecast!

I don't know if The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas has been well received in the US but get the feeling it might get a nod for adapted screenplay, purely because the last 20 minutes or so is so powerful.

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