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Author Topic: AR-15: A2 or A3 Flat Top? Chad Souder Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 962 From: Waterloo, IA, USA Registered: Feb 2000 posted 11-19-2008 07:09 PM                     Don't know if you're considering adding lights or not, but I really like Surefire's vertical forearm. I think they call it millennium. The on/off for the light runs along the sides of the vertical tube making it super easy to use. It's slick. Also, be a little careful if you go with extendable butt stocks. Some of the springs/buffers that go in them get compromised with the shorter length.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-19-2008 08:35 PM                     I think I'd like to stay with a more traditional stock. I don't think a buffer spring or an extension tube is a bad thing but it's just one more thing to go wrong. If there are adjustable stocks that are adjusted and screwed down tight so they'll stay put I might like that. I've seen a few that have sliding extension tubes and all sorts of strange contraptions in them. I don't think I care for those. A traditional style stock in polymer or fiberglass, etc., would be okay by me if it's got a good recoil pad on it. (C'Mon... It's .233 cal. It doesn't kick that much! ) Haven't thought much about a light. The gun club I shoot at has a dawn-to-dusk rule. I wouldn't have much call to shoot at night. But, if the picatinny rail can have an adaptor for a MagLite that might be good if I'm ever in a pinch.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 11-19-2008 08:38 PM                     quote: Randy Stankey C'Mon... It's .233 cal. It doesn't kick that much Yea, it's a .22 on steriods They're a fun little gun to shoot rockchucks with.  |  IP: Logged Chad Souder Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 962 From: Waterloo, IA, USA Registered: Feb 2000 posted 12-01-2008 06:03 PM                     I shot a DPMS last week that I had shot when it was newish and now was shooting again after the owner put a Rock River 2-stage trigger on. It made all the difference in the world. Randy - I'm mad at you. Since you started this topic I keep thinking about getting an AR-10. I've wanted a .308 for awhile, but couldn't justify the cost. I was going to get a Remington 700, but now that you're building your own AR-15, I keep going back to wanting a semi-auto. Prices are shooting up! Anyone have a semi-auto .308 (7.62) they love?  |  IP: Logged Tristan Lane Master Film Handler Posts: 444 From: Nampa, Idaho Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-01-2008 08:18 PM                     Ahhhh rifles. Browning BAR .308 is probably the finest semi-auto .308 I've shot. Very little recoil, and I found the open sights to be accurate. The only fault I could find is that it was more of a showy hunting rifle (I know that is what it was designed for). It had high gloss bluing that I felt I always had to be careful not to smudge or scratch. Regardless of the negative stuff I hear about the Carbon 15, I still want one. I love the feel of it.... I may change my mind once I shoot one. Chad, I used to shoot with a guy who had changeable uppers and barrels for his Bushmaster. He had a .22 caliber and .308 caliber uppers for it in addition to the standard .223. It seemed to work well with any of the three. I'm also a fan of Browning's A-bolt bolt action rifles. Currently, my only .223 is a Stevens 200. It's an okay gun, based on the Savage 110 action with a cheaper stock, but I don't see a reason to hold onto it for much longer. The most satisfaction I've gotten from a gun is also from the 10/22. It just can't be beat! Don't shoot blazer ammo through it or it will stovepipe like hell. Remington is the only thing I buy now.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-01-2008 10:06 PM                     quote: Tristan Lane The most satisfaction I've gotten from a gun is also from the 10/22. It just can't be beat! Don't shoot blazer ammo through it or it will stovepipe like hell. Remington is the only thing I buy now. Take out the steel bolt buffer and replace it with a polymer one. It will take some of the force out of the bolt sliding backward and hitting the rear of the receiver. Replace the spring with a progressively wound extra power spring. That will also take some of the force out of the bolt. Do not shoot "Stingers" out of a Bentz chambered barrel. They are just a hair longer than standard and will eventually destory the chamber and the rifling at the throat. If you're target shooting hi-velocity ammo is not what you want, anyway. You want accuracy over speed/power. Don't shoot cheap ammo. Sorry, Remmington, I have never found any "Thunderbolt" or "Golden Bullet" or virtually any Remmington rimfire ammo to shoot well. It always leaves the gun dirty. Some of their centerfire is good. Just not the rimfire. Finally, keep the action clean. A lot of guys don't like to clean rimfires because they say a nominal amount of fouling improves accuracy. But that doesn't mean you can't keep the action clean. A clean action is key to keeping a semiauto rimfire working well. If I do all these things I can go 1,000 rounds or more before I have to do a through cleaning. I just wipe out the action and clean the outside of the gun and it will be fine.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 12-01-2008 11:06 PM                     ...and I bet even FG would clean guns real well also...  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-02-2008 10:37 AM                     Y'Know, I've thought of that! The only thing I wonder about is whether the parafin oil will cause the action to stick if it gets cold. There are a lot of gun cleaners out there that work okay in the warm weather but are HELL on guns when it gets cold. The stuff gets cold and turns to jelly, thus freezing up the gun's action. I also wonder about whether it will attract dirt and burned powder residue. BTW: Do NOT use FG in a muzzle loader! You do not want to use petroleum based products in contact with black powder. You'll foul the shit out of the gun and cause a whole lot of other problems. The use of petroleum products in muzzle loaders is probably one of the chief reason why the unwashed masses think they are unreliable. The pioneers never used petroleum to clean their guns. They used soap and hot water to clean them and lard or "bear grease" to lube them.  |  IP: Logged Tristan Lane Master Film Handler Posts: 444 From: Nampa, Idaho Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-02-2008 01:44 PM                     Randy, I've replaced the bolt buffer, and also use a Volquartzen stainless match barrel. I've had the opposite experience with Remington rimfire. It always seems to perform the best. I admit that it's a little dirty, but it fouled less than the CCI blazer ammo I was using previously. Stingers and Velocitors are fun for varmiting (sorry for contributing to thread drift.... )  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 12-02-2008 03:48 PM                  Off-topic...but can any of yous recommend a good snub-nosed .38 cal?  |  IP: Logged Tristan Lane Master Film Handler Posts: 444 From: Nampa, Idaho Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-02-2008 05:37 PM                     Smith and Wesson 642 Airweight 1.87 inch barrel.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-02-2008 07:40 PM                     I like the Smith & Wesson 686 Plus a bit more than the 642. It costs more. The cylinder holds 7 shots in either .38 Special +P or .357 Magnum. Here is a beautiful photo of the 686p wearing some custom wood grips. Photo is by Ken Lunde. That guy has one hell of a pistol collection. Lots of great pistol photos at his web page. The 340PD is a smaller .357 snubbie. Very nice carry pistol. But pricey. Here is the product page on the 686p at the Smith & Wesson web site.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 12-03-2008 03:41 AM                     Who made the "Dirty Harry" pistol and wasn't that a .454 calibre?  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-03-2008 12:40 PM                     The classic Dirty Harry pistol is the Smith & Wesson model 29 .44 magnum with 6.5" barrel and blued finish. Linky Linky  |  IP: Logged Chad Souder Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 962 From: Waterloo, IA, USA Registered: Feb 2000 posted 12-03-2008 01:13 PM                     quote: Phil Hill Off-topic...but can any of yous recommend a good snub-nosed .38 cal? My opinion is on small guns like that, it really depends on what fits your hand well. The S&W 642 Tristan mentioned or the 686 Bobby mentioned will both be very reliable. The 686 is a medium frame gun, so it will be longer, wider and much heavier than the 642. I like the Ruger SP101 - it's in between those two on length and weight and also shoots the .357. I have a Ruger GP100 which I love, but again, that's a medium frame vs. a smaller frame SP101 or the S&W 642, but I have bigger hands. My beef with S&W is the beef many gun owners have with them, going back to 2000 when they buckled under Clinton pressure. I'll leave it at that so as not to get too far into politics, but sum it up by saying I haven't bought a S&W since. Monte - The 454 Casull you're referring to is what is responsible for the untruth in one of the most famous quotes in movie history. Callahan says, as part of his famous 6 shots or 5 speech, “But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world” The 454 Casull was introduced in the late 50’s so unless Dirty Harry was supposed to have taken place before that introduction (I can’t remember the movie that well) the 454 was at that time - and continued to be for quite awhile - the most powerful handgun in the world. I own a Ruger Super Blackhawk in a .44 mag for hunting. I have shot the 454, 480 Ruger and the 500 S&W. Those other larger calibers are purely overkill. I can see absolutely no benefit to having anything larger than a .44 in a handgun. Back to rifles - Tristan, I looked long and hard at the Browning and I can't seem to find anything bad anyone can say about them. I think you may have swayed me. Anyone shot the shorter 7.62 x 39?  |  IP: Logged

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