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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Bobby Henderson
I'm surprised cellular phone manufacturers have not noticed the need to do something about this problem. I wouldn't sweat it if someone texting on a phone was doing so on a screen that wasn't so bright. Why not develop some sort of "visual stealth" mode where the screen is only bright enough for the phone user to see it? This could be accomplished through a combination of low contrast, dark color "theme" changes and a type of lenticular screen "privacy filter" attachment that radically reduces the viewing angle and light spread coming from the phone. I guess we'll see it only if Apple decides to tackle the problem. Then it will spread to other hand sets.
I agree. "Theatre mode" would be a good cell phone "app." Quiet ring + grey-on-black text and so on.

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Bobby Henderson
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Optimal projection quality and clear, rich, dynamic surround sound are basics just about any commercial movie theater should be delivering. I'm willing to give drive in theaters, second run sites and some art/revival houses a little slack on that. Mainstream, big chain theaters don't have much excuse, other than cost cutting, for not bringing their A-game when it comes to picture and sound quality. That's one of the basics.

It does add another dimension to movie-watching when you experience it with an audience. But that communal experience isn't what it used to be anymore. Too many viewers have their attention taken away from the screen by cell phone use and other distractions. To top it off, some people deliberately disrupt the show to bring attention to themselves -like the three teen girls I remember screaming loudly at any opportunity during a showing of The Ring at an Oklahoma City theater.

It's more difficult to manage audience behavior. It's not so difficult to make sure the sound and projection quality is optimal. Digital is supposed to be making the projection aspect easier. So that should leave more room for the various techs to get the sound side of things up to snuff. But they're not doing it at so many places. Instead, I think digital is just being used to cut staff and make a single technician cover more theaters.

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Frank Cox
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I take folks using cell phones while my movie is playing pretty seriously. Two young fellows (age 20 or so) just discovered that for themselves less than an hour ago.

I asked one to turn his phone off because it lights up the room. He said "no". *blink* Allow me to show you the way to the exit.

Sheesh.

There seems to be something about peoples memory lasting only six months. About twice every year I have to throw someone out with a cell phone, and about twice a year I have to throw someone out with beer. The rest of the time, everything stays under control.

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Richard Hamilton
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quote: Frank Cox
I have to throw someone out with beer
What a buzzkill [Roll Eyes] , when I was in high school that was part of the experience [beer] . We were never loud or talkitive because it.

One night a small group of us went to see the late show of Dirty Harry. 500 seat room, only 2 other people watching the film. We parked next to the hallway exit door and would bring in beer there. We all worked there and the owners son was with us. When it was my turn to go get beer out of the car, i got up and accidentally knocked over some empty bottles and you could hear them roll all the way down the auditorium. When I returned , the paper bag full of beer had gotten wet and broke as soon as I entered the room. The next thing I know, I'm being drug into the lobby by a man who was sitting in the back row (off duty cop watching Dirt Harry by himself). He ends up patting me down at the concession stand. About this time one of my friends comes out, he gets the same treatment. The cop sees the usher and tells him to call the cops. Kid freaks out because he knows who we are, but plays it cool and calls the manager out instead. Then the owners son comes out of the movie and gets into the conversation. The only thing I remember was him asking the cop "did you pay to watch the movie?", (cops got in free). The manager just said "your name and badge number are in the log you signed to get in, we'll take care of it"

Ahhhh....the good old days, me and my friends could have made a John Hughes film.

Done reminiscing,
Rick

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Bobby Henderson
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Considering how selfish and rude so many movie-goers are these days just when they're sober, adding alcohol to the situation is asking for a whole lot more trouble. Alcohol amplifies emotional impulse and some people really go to the dark side when they're drunk. Customers shouldn't be smuggling any outside drinks into the show anyway, regardless if the drinks contain alcohol or not.

IMHO, any movie theater serving beer or mixed drinks should be doing so in a controlled, age 21 and over only section. The Warren 14 in Moore, OK has premium balcony areas in its largest two auditoriums. You can order beer and mixed drinks up there. Customers must be 21 or older to sit there. On top of that, the drink prices are pretty high. You'll spend a lot of money if you want to get hammered during the show.

BTW, when did smoking get banned from most movie theaters? From my childhood on up I can't remember any indoor theater allowing smoking. It might have been one of the reasons why my parents preferred going to the drive-in. They both smoked until my mother's father died of lung cancer (both quit cold turkey after witnessing that). Considering how common smoking was 30-40 years ago I imagine a lot of theaters used to allow it.

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Mike Blakesley
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Ours used to allow smoking in the balcony. They had installed a vent fan in the balcony to suck-out the smoke. We eliminated smoking when we took over in 1979. Part of it was the smoke itself but the vent fan was too noisy also. We did lose a few customers over it but probably gained others to make up.

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Frank Cox
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Smoking was banned in any public place in Saskatchewan in 2005, and in any private workplace in 2009.

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Jake Spell
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Having worked at a theater serving beer and wine most people dont get too crazy. There are the occasional few that need to be taken out but the one time that I had to remove someone he was apologizing to me because he felt bad for ruining the movie for the other customers. I ended up talking to him while he and his friend finished his beer in the upstairs lobby. Pretty cool when I get thanked by the guy I kicked out. [Big Grin]

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Tom Petrov
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quote: Pravin Ratnam
I turned 40 recently. I realized one sad fact. I do not feel the same thrill I did earlier in my life at going to the movies. In the 90s, there was a time when I would watch nearly 2 movies a week on the average in theaters(average boosted by the nearly 3 movies a week I would watch in the summer). I would watch all kinds of movies back then - indie movies, foreign ones, action, silly comedies, even the genial bland ones. Sometimes, I would even stay past my movie and walk into the next auditorium and sample a part of a bad movie out of plain morbid curiosity(example: Batman and Robin). Earlier this decade, that number fell to one a week. But over the last couple of years, I am having a hard time watching movies in the theater on a twice a month basis. This was a decent summer, so I watched 12 movies during the summer. Though at other times, it is down to once a month and sometimes I go just because a life's worth of moviegoing habit built in a sense of obligation for me to go watch.

I have become content watching movies on my 60 inch HD screen despite the pan and scan atrocities(2.35 movies modified to fit 16x9) of HBO and Starz. Showtime at least shows OAR. Now I got a PS3. So I will start renting discs again. In a couple of years, 70 inch LCDs should become affordable and I will upgrade my TV at that point.

There are many reasons for my decreased moviegoing habit
1) Just natural aging. We have seen it all. Variations of the same theme over the ages. I actually have a hard time sitting still in a movie theater over an average movie that i would find perfectly fine on TV. In the 90s, I would sit and enjoy such movies in the theater. Now I get very restless if the movie is just OK. That was something I would feel in the past only for bad movies.

2) Worse projection standards in theaters. Better home theater quality. HD has really made me prefer to watch genial movie comedies and small dramas at home. Also borderline movies with stars , i can safely watch at home while multitasking. This multitasking thing is a big key for me.
3) The decline of indie theaters in my area. I think Madstone was the last hurrah in that regard. Landmark has a couple of theaters but they are too far away for me to attend unless the movie is great.
4) My peer group has been totally domesticated. They are more into what is good for their kids.
5) There are still talented filmmakers out there, but not all of it is in the movies. I think pay cable has picked up the slack for TV series that are movie like. (Example: I love Dexter).

6) Shortening video window:
Anyway, I might go watch Slumdog Millionaire or Benjamin Button today. haven't decided yet. As badly as I want to see them, the shortening video window makes me not have to wait too long if I don't see it. Plus, if you do not catch a movie in the first week, frequently they get shunted to the small auditoriums in most theaters

Priorities change, you were a lot younger back then. I should add, I believe back in the 90s, there was more movie going "magic" in that you didn't know how they made movies, what was behind the special effects etc etc. Today, the magic is gone with all the behind the scenes stuff going on.

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Evans A Criswell
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I just looked through this thread again and saw my post from much earlier (Jan. 2009) and the comments I made then still apply. I saw one movie in theatres in 2011 and that was "Contagion" and only because a group of friends who came to my house wanted to go see it at the dollar theatre (the back 4 auditoriums of what was the Cobb/Regal Madison Square 12 behind the declining Madison Square Mall, which are partitioned off from the front 8 which are still first-run). I saw one movie in theatres in 2011, and that was Tron Legacy 3D at Regal Hollywood 18 because a friend wanted to see it. Before that, the last movie I'd seen in a theatre was "Bruno" which I went to on my own at Carmike 8 in Decatur, AL out of curiosity. I'm averaging one a year now, and I used to average more than one a week. I have seen 3 movies in theatres since that post but I've seen many on my home system by streaming through Netflix or by DVD.

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Mike Blakesley
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Welcome back, Evans. Maybe being back here among the F-T'ers will motivate you to go to the movies more often. [Smile]

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It has been 2486 days since the last post.


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Pravin Ratnam
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Nearly 10 years later. And I gotta say, over the last year, I pretty much have lost interest in going to the theater. Since my last post, there were a couple of years where I regained some of the enthusiasm I had. But it was shortlived. Avengers Infinity left me cold. Even Jurassic World 2(I liked the first one which was a throwback type movie to the earlier ones) didnt have me spellbound.

I was going to watch the latest Mission IMpossible, but it left the IMAX screens just a week or two later and I had no wish to trudge through to watch it on a tiny screen.

I also blame netflix. The industry has put way too much content out there that I have lost interest in not only watching movies in the theater, but watching movies or TV shows at home no longer have the same appeal either inspite of a lot of solid new content.

I still have the same enthusiasm for watching the NFL though. So sports is still the same appeal to me.

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Mike Blakesley
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Your tastes change as you get older, as does your enthusiasm for going out of the house.

There are people here who have been going to movies every couple of weeks for decades, and there are others who used to come all the time and now hardly ever show up at all (or they never do). Some go to a lot of movies while they're "dating" but as soon as they get married we never see them again...until they have kids. Then we see them with the kids, until the kids are old enough to go by themselves, and then we never see the parents again...until they have grandkids.

In short.....everybody is different.

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Harold Hallikainen
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My wife and I go to a theater at least once a week with a meetup group called the Denver Cinema Club. We typically have 20 or 30 people who show up for the movie, then get together for dinner afterwards to discuss the movie and anything else. We've seen some good stuff, normally at one of the Landmark theaters or the Denver Film Society.

Harold
age 67 in two days...

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