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Author Topic: Windows 7 beta Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 01-14-2009 11:53 PM                     I do believe that Microsoft finally have a winning OS here. But, the question remains: Will everyone want to grab onto it if they're running Xp-Pro like the lot of us are using?  |  IP: Logged Jennifer Pan THE JEN! Posts: 1219 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: Nov 2003 posted 01-15-2009 09:28 AM                        When it comes with the next generation laptops I would probably look into getting it... Until then its XP for now.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-15-2009 10:31 AM                     The Jen, The next generation laptops are already here.... they just don't include Win 7... but for now ya can get it for free.  |  IP: Logged Jennifer Pan THE JEN! Posts: 1219 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: Nov 2003 posted 01-15-2009 11:12 AM                        I am waiting on Win 7 to be on laptops. Tempted to try it, I've heard about it for awhile now but I'm not ready to try it just yet...  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-15-2009 01:07 PM                     If you do be sure to get another hard drive to install it on, they are really cheap thee days. Don't overwrite your existing drive... there are not really any Windows 7 problems per say but should some turn up later down the line then you haven't lost anything plus you have the ability to switch back and forth ust by swapping the drive and er-booting. Mark  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-15-2009 01:53 PM                        With Windows don't you need to go into the BIOS and tell it to look for a different boot drive even when you physically swap drives? I know PCs are kind of dumb that way, but that's what makes them so cute and adorable!  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 01-15-2009 02:12 PM                    quote: Monte L Fullmer the question remains: Will everyone want to grab onto it if they're running Xp-Pro like the lot of us are using? That indeed is the question. XP runs fine for us. I don't think I've EVER had any substantial stability problems with it. For someone who runs an IT department that supports around 300 users and their PCs, why would I pay for and go through the trouble to upgrade anyone (let alone EVERYONE) if I don't have to? Upgrading a server or a piece of software (like the email client or Office) is understandable, but if the OS runs great, why change it?  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-15-2009 02:36 PM                     quote: Joe Redifer With Windows don't you need to go into the BIOS and tell it to look for a different boot drive even when you physically swap drives? No, not on any of my pc's... and I have some really old laptops floating around. The bios on all of them auto detects what drive is installed. The C drive remains the C drive even if you change the drive to another one... If the drive you install has nothing to boot then the display will just way "Missing Operating System" or "No Operating System Found". What you're thinking of may have been true with DOS but I believe that even back then the motherboard's bios would still auto detect and see what ever HD is installed. quote: Mark J. Marshall but if the OS runs great, why change it Because the support time is finite on XP, support stops in 2012. Many IT departments may indeed begin the change over so they don't have to do it all at once. But keep in mind that Windows 7 isn't even available yet. This Beta Version of Win 7 is set to expire on August 1 so that may be a hint of the release date or that we may all have to download beta version 2. The original release date was said to be Jan. 2010 but I bet it's more like right around when these Betas expire. Mark  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-15-2009 03:58 PM                        So you MUST tell the drive itself that it is "C", so that way you can't have it installed at the same time as an XP system? That would suck to be physically swapping drives back and forth. Sure, one drive can be D or F or whatever, but what if you want to take that drive over to a friend's house and show him the hot new OS from the heavens? BIOS time? In my opinion the whole lettering of drives is unnecessary. The OS should detect what drives are there, which ones have OS's on them and so forth.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 01-15-2009 10:18 PM                     Except if you physically swap out the drive so that you only have one drive, then the windows install on that drive will only see the one drive and that one will be the "C:" drive.  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 01-15-2009 11:02 PM                        There are cases where if you do a new install of XP on a system with 2 or more drives, and there's a bootable OS on an existing drive, the new install becomes D: or some letter other than C: and once that happens you can't change it. You boot and everything is fine but your boot drive is D: or E: or something. Been there done that googled it, found no simple fix. Can't change the letter of the boot drive. Someone tell me if I'm wrong. A boot drive's assigned drive letter as a bootable drive cannot be easily changed. As a data drive, the letter can be changed at will even if the drive contains a bootable OS. I'm really surprised that Windows 7 is already getting such a positive response. My boss hates MS and thinks Vista is the devil's work, but damn if he isn't all over Windows 7 like it's the greatest thing since Corinthian leather.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 01-15-2009 11:18 PM                     The only time it would matter that you are installing onto a drive that is getting called "D:" is if you later install some driver where its install program assumes your windows system directory resides inside "C:" and ignores the windows variable for the actual system directory. Good thing that happens rarely and if it does you should complain to the people who provided that installer, since they are complete morons.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 01-15-2009 11:55 PM                     Course, if I had an external HD, or a 16g thumb drive, I'd would have installed it on either one of those devices and did the "F-12" thing to change boot sequence when the POST came up on the screen ... It's not that all of a biggie swapping out HD's to play with it since my laptop does the autodetect with whatever HD is installed.. "Brother!" doing BIOS recognitions for HD installs,,,isn't that getting to approach the "486" days? -Monte  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-16-2009 01:54 AM                        My boot drive on my XP system is F. There are no lower letters anywhere, at least for hard drives. I have no idea how this happened. It confuses some software because it expects to see a "C" drive. Way retarded. And way primitive. They really need to get out of the 1980 drive lettering days. Might as well use a Speak and Spell instead.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 01-16-2009 03:38 AM                     quote: Mark Gulbrandsen The Beta also includes Internet Explorer 8. Well there's another reason NOT to switch from XP to Windows 7.  |  IP: Logged

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