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John Wilson
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Wow...when was the last time all 5 Best Picture nominated films had all 5 Directors nominated too?

As far as the screenplay to Wall-E's sequel...there's more to a screenplay than just dialogue. I think it was a great film. I hate that there's now a 'Best Animated Film' catagory. At least Madagascar 2 wasn't part of the nominations. [Roll Eyes]

Also, I'm not too surprised not to see Gran Torino there. It's definately not one of Clint's better efforts (and I love how he's developed into a master film-maker over the years). Did he mean for the acting of everyone to be so amateurish? The young boy in it looks like he was picked from a group of kids and asked "Hey, do you want a major role in my new movie?" In fact, much of the 'cast' gives this impression.

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Joe Tommassello
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I think the Animated Feature category was probably a necessity. I don't believe one ever won best picture. I am still curious as to why "Life is Beautiful" wasn't nominated in the foreign film category.

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Justin Hamaker
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Life is Beautiful was nominated for Best Picture AND Foreign Language film. Life is Beautiful on IMDb

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Joe Tommassello
I think the Animated Feature category was probably a necessity.
I think jhawk may have it right - maybe it was a reaction by the union people as much as anything, seeing's how it was created right after BEAUTY AND THE BEAST got nominated for Best Picture.

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John Wilson
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quote: Justin Hamaker
Life is Beautiful was nominated for Best Picture AND Foreign Language film.
Technically then there's no reason why an animated film could not still be included as a Best Picture nomination if it was good enough.

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Bobby Henderson
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If actors really do have some prejudice against animated movies based on it being some kind of perceived threat to their careers then I think their stance makes little sense at all.

The flaw in their thinking is exposed by an important factor: human actors still provide much of the performance via their vocal track -not to mention the fact studios like Pixar and PDI/Dreamworks commonly videotape the actors voicing their performances.

In Beowulf at least some of the CGI actors looked similar to their real life counterparts and the performances were heavily dependent on motion capture technology.

Blurring the line further, movies like The Curious Case of Benjamin Button are heavily reliant on CGI effects. There is a lot of "live action" movies featuring actors in many scenes that are merely CGI "virtual."

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Louis Belloisy
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Very Disappointing to see Dark Knight was not picked for best picture or director.

As one of the previous posters said, the academy loves movies about gay, retarded, foreign films shot with bad cinematography and the likes.

Too bad. [Razz]

Louis

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John Hawkinson
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"Who IS hosting, Jon Stewart again?"

Nope. It's...

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...the Wolverine---
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err, I mean Hugh Jackman! Who did an awesome job hosting the Tony's for 3 years running (youtube clip). In fact he won an Emmy for his hosting.

quote: AMPAS/Beverly Hills, CA (December 12, 2008)

Hugh Jackman will host the 81st Academy Awards® telecast, producer Laurence Mark and executive producer Bill Condon announced today. This will be Jackman’s first time center stage at the Oscar show, although he has previously been a presenter.

“Hugh Jackman is a consummate entertainer and an internationally renowned movie star,” said Mark and Condon in a joint statement. “He also has style, elegance and a sense of occasion. Hugh is the ideal choice to host a celebration of the year’s movies – and to have fun doing it.”

Jackman stars in the current release “Australia,” directed by Baz Luhrmann. He will next be seen in “X-Men Origins: Wolverine,” having portrayed the title character in the previous three smash-hit “X-Men” movies. His other film credits include “The Prestige,” “Flushed Away,” “The Fountain,” “Happy Feet,” “Van Helsing,” “Kate & Leopold” and “Swordfish.”

--jhawk

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John Wilson
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Anyone know when (or if ever) was the last time a husband and wife were both nominated Best Actor and Best Actress at the same Oscars?

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Sally Ann Burgess
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Five married couples have earned acting nominations in the same year (three times, a husband-and-wife team have been nominated for the same picture):

* Alfred Lunt and Lynn Fontanne, Best Actor and Best Actress nominations for The Guardsman (1932) - both lost
* Charles Laughton and Elsa Lanchester, Best Actor and Best Supporting Actress nominations for Witness for the Prosecution (1957) - both lost
* Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor (win), Best Actor and Best Actress nominations for Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (1966)
* Frank Sinatra, Best Supporting Actor nomination (and win) for From Here to Eternity (1953), and Ava Gardner, Best Actress nomination for Mogambo (1953)
* Rex Harrison, Best Actor nomination for Cleopatra (1963), and Rachel Roberts, Best Actress nomination for This Sporting Life (1963)

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Tyler Potts
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Is Robert Downey Jr.'s nomination for best supporting actor in Tropic Thunder just meant to be something to get attention?

*sigh* Nothing to get excited about this year. Mickey will win best actor, Winslet will win best actress, & Slumdog will win best picture (and everyone will agree without even ever seeing it).

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Mark J. Marshall
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I saw Slumdog. I wouldn't say that it bored me to tears, but if I had a choice of seeing Slumdog free or spending $50 to see Dark Knight in IMAX, I wouldn't choose Slumdog.

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Mike Blakesley
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Here's an article from IMDB.com:

Is AMPAS Out Of Touch?
23 January 2009 1:38 AM, PST

Members of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences may have shot themselves in the foot with their selection of top Oscar nominees on Thursday, the Chicago Tribune suggested today (Friday). The newspaper observed that by selecting so many relatively obscure movies, the Academy seems to have guaranteed another low-rated Oscars ceremony. Entertainment writer Marc Caro noted that The Dark Knight, which took in $531 million at the domestic box office last year also garnered 94 positive reviews on the Rotten Tomatoes website, compared with 60 percent for The Reader, which has grossed only $7.9 million. "Yet The Reader is a best picture (and director) nominee, and The Dark Knight is not," Caro observed. Mediaweek analyst Marc Berman added: "The problem with the films this year is none of them are huge, mass-appeal hits." Caro concluded that by denying recognition to films like Knight and Wall-e, the movie academy "risks confirming the suspicions of those who think it has grown out of touch with mainstream tastes."
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While I agree that "The Dark Knight" was a really good movie and should have been on the BP list, it looks like the Tribune misses the point of the Academy. They are supposed to pick movies that are really good, not really popular. It's not all about the telecast ratings.

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Bobby Henderson
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Generally speaking, I like Rotten Tomatoes' "tomato meter" system, although it could use some improvement. It's certainly a powerful enough and popular enough gauge for movie quality that it absolutely does embarrass the AMPAS membership for choosing a couple of Best Picture nominees that don't have great or even good tomato meter scores.

I think Rotten Tomatoes needs to make its tomato meter gauge a little more precise rather than giving a single critic's review and up or down vote. If they measured according to star ratings or numerical ratings and got the critics to play along with this a much more accurate average could be tabulated. Then you would have an even more accurate reading on which films were the best of the year.

Still, after reading the Rotten Tomatoes' site for a few years now, I have to say that it is usually pretty difficult for a mainstream movie to score well into 90's percentile. The Dark Knight managed that. So did Wall•E.

Time ultimately judges which movies are truly great and get lifted to "classic" status. There's lots of movies that endure as true greats of film that never won a Best Picture Oscar.

Star Wars lost out to Annie Hall. Both are good movies, but which one still endures? I saw Annie Hall again not long ago on some HD channel (HD Net Movies, I think). I won't deny that it is a great movie, but its humor and observations are only relevant for the 1970s. It doesn't play well today.

Raging Bull didn't win a Best Picture Oscar. If memory serves correct, I don't think classics like The Searchers or 2001 were even nominated for Best Picture Oscars at all.

Some of the same "important" best picture nominees may suffer the fate or simply be forgotten years from now while movies like The Dark Knight may be more likely to play well to audiences a couple decades from now.

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Mark Ogden
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quote: Mike Blakesley
. . . it looks like the Tribune misses the point of the Academy. They are supposed to pick movies that are really good, not really popular. It's not all about the telecast ratings.
Absolutely right, Mike. There are already alternative award shows for popularity's sake, The People's Choice Awards and the MTV Movie Awards come to mind. The Oscars are members of the Motion Picture Academy deciding amongst themselves what is the best they saw in a given year, TV ratings be dammed. Thank God, too, or else a lot of fine films and performances would go unrecognized because of their lack of mainstream appeal. How many average film-goers do you thing even heard of Melissa Leo before the other morning (or for that matter, Marion Cotillard, last year's winner), and how many do you think saw Frozen River? It's a great movie and a terrific acting job, and deserves to recognized as such . . . but it sure isn't going to be by the People's Choice Awards.

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