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Author Topic: Best Videography Oscar Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-23-2009 09:33 AM                        For the 81st year in a row, the worst Oscars ever! Whoever put together the Best of the Dead tribute should be shot. You could barely make out half of them floating around at different angles being hit by bad zooms. While shooting people, the designer who thought screen panels were a good idea. Watching clips with a seam line through the middle of actors faces. Lovely. They could have at least cut to an insert for the people at home, And the reflective surface floor mirroring the screen was just gawdawful. Really terrible set design all around. Almost as bad a Jessica Biel's dress! As for who wins, who remembers a week from now? In most catagories, you can win with 21% of the vote, so who cares? It really doesn't mean anything. It's all about watching the wretched excess, baby edited to correct ugly dress wearer's name [ 02-23-2009, 10:39 AM: Message edited by: Martin McCaffery ]  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 02-23-2009 10:04 AM                     To be fair, Slumdog Millionaire won the motion pictures award at the 2009 American Society of Cinematographers Awards on Feb. 15. The Dark Knight director, Christopher Nolan earned the ASC Board of Governors Award. I still don't agree with Slumdog Millionaire winning the Best Cinematography Oscar. It's winning over political popularity rather than actual technical/artistic quality. Other movies did the "digital film" thing much better. Slumdog Millionaire may not look as murky and drab as Danny Boyle's 28 Days Later, but it still looks a lot like video merely vomited onto a film strip. The imagery could have looked better if the video had been treated better in post production. The movie certainly would have looked better if it had been shot on film and treated in digital intermediate.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-23-2009 10:49 AM                     As for the Memorium segment...the empty spotlight was a very nice touch at the end. As for the awards...I know that Slumdog should NOT have won for Cinematography...it isn't that it wasn't the best...it was actually quite bad. So bad, in fact, it bothered me during the movie. For it to win, shows what a joke the award was. Slumdog also has no business being a "Best Picture." It was okay as a story and poor technically. The actors were fine though....again not a "best picture." Steve  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Althaus Master Film Handler Posts: 435 From: Bedford, TX Registered: Dec 2008 posted 02-23-2009 01:32 PM                     Slumdawg was the Academy's little baby this year. What we need is an entirely fan-voted legitimate award show so the "big" movies get some credit and not the little POS films that run SR only and look like crap.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 02-23-2009 01:47 PM                     The problem with doing a fan-voted popularity contest kind of awards show is too many idiots who really don't know their stuff when it comes to film will vote crap like the latest Underworld installment as Best Picture and give some rap star who can't act the Best Actor award. We already see that kind of junk with the MTV Movie Awards and similar shows. I like how Rotten Tomatoes has their Golden Tomato Awards system set up. Their system is less subjective than what AMPAS uses. However, they don't weigh in on any of the technical or production design oriented categories. The Golden Tomato Awards get announced right after the end of the year, making it possible for someone to put together an awards program ahead of the Golden Globes and well ahead of the Oscars.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-23-2009 01:58 PM                        So why don't we all come up with constructive suggestions for improving the Oscar-cast. Outside of "giving the awards to better movies" there must be ways it could be done better. My idea: Instead of the 3.5-hour show, I think there ought to be a one-hour Oscar show on network TV. The show would feature the following awards: Best Picture Best Actor and Actress Best Supporting Actor and Actress Best Animated Film Best Foreign Film Best Song Lifetime Acheivement Award, if any Those are the awards most people care about. Sad to say, but the vast majority of people don't give two hoots about art direction, cinematography, writing, makeup, visual effects, documentaries, shorts, etc. The awards in these "boring" categories (along with the sheer length of the show in general) are what cause people to change the channel. I would also award Picture and Director simultaneously -- make it one award, since the two awards almost always go to the same movie anyway. The one-hour show could be edited down from the usual four-hour extravaganza, which would air on Hulu or YouTube, thus saving at least some of the commercial revenues that would be lost from trimming the network time. The usual 15-minute list of dead celebrities could be a CNN-style 'crawl' across the bottom of the screen during the show.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 02-23-2009 02:23 PM                     I think only people who work in specific fields should be able to nominate as well as vote for the winner in a given category. Only cinematographers should be able to nominate and vote in that category. Membership-wide voting should be limited to the big categories (acting, directing, writing). The telecast should be shorter. Instead, they went LONGER this year. I couldn't believe this new system with 5 Oscar winners in acting taking forever and a day to kiss the ass of the nominees in the acting categories. It sucked. YAWN!!! I prefer one or two presenters reading a list and perhaps showing a short film clip of each nominee.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 02-23-2009 02:43 PM                        I agree. I didn't like the 5 actors/actresses reading their gushy love-letters on why the nominee they were speaking to is a world treasure. They're actors. They are NOT special! For the dead celebrities segment, I had a hard time reading many of the names and I was watching in HDTV. I can't imagine how it must have looked in SDTV. It was horribly put together.  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 02-23-2009 02:53 PM                        I was very pleased when Japan won two oscars last night. The first one was for animated short subject, TSUMEKI NO IE (La Maison en Petis Cubes) and OKURIBITO (Departures) for Best Foreign Film. It has been a very long time since Japan won a film Oscar. With the exception of Hisayo Miyazaki full length animated feature SPIRITED AWAY in 2002, the last time a live action film won was SAMURAI (Part one of a trilogy) in the mid fifties and that was a special award before the category for best foreign film was established. -Claude  |  IP: Logged Mike Schindler Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1039 From: Oak Park, IL, USA Registered: Jun 2002 posted 02-23-2009 06:12 PM                     quote: Mike Blakesley So why don't we all come up with constructive suggestions for improving the Oscar-cast. I've been saying this for years, but they need to get William Shatner to host.  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 02-23-2009 06:32 PM                        quote: Mike Schindler they need to get William Shatner to host Heh heh, well he seems to be trying just about everything else so he might as well take a stab at Oscar host. Last night's show was significantly better overall than others in recent years.  |  IP: Logged Dennis Benjamin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1445 From: Denton, MD Registered: Feb 2002 posted 02-23-2009 09:52 PM                        I am going to go out in left field on this: I think the fact that "Slumdog Millionaire" won so many golden statues is an example of the political correctness that the world seems big on nowadays. Bollywood is full of good movies, actors, actresses and good story lines. I think Hollywood is trying to send out an olive branch to bring the two even closer together. I am certain that Academy members were steered in a certain direction when it came to voting. Just so you know, it doesn't really bother me. I mean, everyone deserves their shot at getting the little golden guys. But, yeah, I think there is a political slant to it all of this, and it kinda makes me think that when it comes to awards shows - it's all a little rigged. I have an extreme appreciation for the country of India and the Hindu religion. As a citizen of the planet earth - I think we will find as time goes on - we will all find ourselves a little closer to each other. I am just glad that Heath Ledger won the supporting actor award - I went to sleep after that announcement was made....  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 02-23-2009 09:57 PM                        quote: Dennis Benjamin I am certain that Academy members were steered in a certain direction when it came to voting You mean like AMPAS sent out a letter or email or something saying "We'd really appreciate it if you'd vote for Slumdog Millionaire"? I'm trying to imagine how something like that would be kept on the low-down. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. They saw, they liked.  |  IP: Logged Dennis Benjamin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1445 From: Denton, MD Registered: Feb 2002 posted 02-23-2009 10:21 PM                        No, I am not saying that. But as was said before, Best Cinematography? I don't think so.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-24-2009 09:36 AM                        If a movie is picking up a lot of major awards, sometimes the voters will vote the same film for smaller awards too, just because they loved the movie so much and there was no clear standout (to them) among the rest. The same thing can happen when there are movies the voters haven't seen...they vote for something they HAVE seen, even though it may not be as deserving. Bottom line, there is no perfect awards contest.  |  IP: Logged

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