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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Brad Miller
everyone complains about how much piracy is hurting the industry and is against the law, but how is buying one DSL line and splitting the cost with a neighbor or two different?
The reason the comm industry isn't screaming about this kind of thing is because it's not a widespread problem. Remember when Cable TV was new, you had to pay extra for "more hookups" in your house but since everyone could buy a splitter in the corner hardware store, that's pretty much a non-issue now...the cable people would probably love it if you paid for every set you have, but how many people do?

I can think of one other major way it's different: If I have a DSL line that I share with my neighbor, that's only one non-paying person using the service. But if I camcord a popular movie and put it on the internet, there could be millions of people downloading it within minutes.

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Chad Souder
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Brad is absolutely correct - there is no difference. Theft is theft, regardless of the number of beneficiaries.

Cable companies do have "sniffers" in their trucks that detect signal leaks as they drive around. Many of those cheap splitters you can buy all over cause such leaks. I had a cable guy knock on my door a couple years ago. He said I had a leak. He found it near my bedroom set, replaced the splitter on the outside of the house, redid the ends near the set and was on his way. Didn't charge me a dime. Maybe they have something similar for DSL?

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Chad Souder
Theft is theft, regardless of the number of beneficiaries.
To clarify, I never said it was right. I just stated my opinion on why the comm companies are not raising hell about it in the media.

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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As I had reported in a earlier thread about it, I have been using wireless internet service provided by Verizon and I am very happy I have the ability to go on line at any time and place except on planes- so far. As a semi retired photographer, most of my time is now spent with my 90 year old mother in her nursing home room. When I am not doing photographic post production work with my CS3 Photoshop setup on my Apple Powerbook laptop, I am always online The plan I have is 500 gb a month and cost $70.00 and my usage is usually under 200 gb during that period. That is not too bad considering I am on line at least five hours every day of the week.

-Claude

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Brad Miller
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500gb bandwidth on a mobile broadband account??? Are you sure that is right?

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Bill Enos
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ClearWire or something similar might be an option. We use it here at the theater with a wireless router and it easily supports 3 or 4 computers and they don't care how it is used.

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Frank Angel
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Doesn't DSL performance degrade as more people share the bandwidth? That would pretty much limit the number of free-loaders who could access a single account in one household or say on a floor in an apartment building.

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Chris Slycord
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Of course, performance degrades as more people share one connection. It's not any different than you trying to download several things at once... the performance of any one stream goes down because you usually have a fixed total max rate.

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Robert Minichino
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But even with multiple people sharing a broadband connection it is usually idle most of the time. This, of course, isn't true if the connection isn't idle because of one or more large downloads, or there is so much web activity the connection is saturated.

Many small offices share consumer DSL and cable connections among a dozen or so people and the performance is still very acceptable.

Of course, back on the topic of Internet service, I definitely wouldn't recommend sharing a single residential connection with anyone other than very good friends in the same building. If someone using the connection engages in any illegal activities it could come back and bite you.

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Sam Graham
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With DSL, you're buying a set level of bandwidth. At least in the case of Qwest, they don't care how you're using it, be it setting up a home network, sharing your security code with a neighbor, or opening your wi-fi network to anybody within range. They even show you HOW to do it.

You can't use more than you're buying, so it's up to you how you use it. In their way of thinking, if you want to slow your allocation down by letting others on board, that's your business.

I'm not familiar with their policy on you reselling part of the bandwidth, but they don't care about you sharing it, and they're certainly not policing it.

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Rick Raskin
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I believe reselling is prohibited by the service agreement.

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