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Author Topic: Michael Jackson Tickets SOLD OUT!! Hillary Charles Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 748 From: York, PA, USA Registered: Feb 2001 posted 05-28-2009 05:21 PM                     quote: Steve Guttag Donny Osmond's version of Ben is better. But it's not part of the movie.  |  IP: Logged Bill Enos Film God Posts: 2081 From: Richmond, Virginia, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 05-28-2009 06:37 PM                     Everybody at sometime a Jackson fan? Ha! not here, hated his voice with the Jackson 5, found him despicable on his own.  |  IP: Logged William T. Parr Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 823 From: Cedar Park, TX Registered: Nov 2000 posted 05-28-2009 08:10 PM                     quote: Bill Enos Everybody at sometime a Jackson fan? Ha! not here, hated his voice with the Jackson 5, found him despicable on his own. Yeah but he should could hit that High C note with out his nuts in a vise....Oh wait he would have to have some first. Or having a giant Dildo cramed up ass.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 05-28-2009 09:09 PM                     NSFW! Spoiler Alert - Click to Toggle  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-28-2009 09:53 PM                     Brad...whoops...you posted that in the wrong thread...that belongs in the "Caption that Pic II" thread!  |  IP: Logged Chad Souder Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 962 From: Waterloo, IA, USA Registered: Feb 2000 posted 05-31-2009 11:59 PM                     Perhaps I should have said every real music lover has at some point been a Michael Jackson fan. He is example of "Love the art, not the artist". Whatever you think of Jackson as a person (I personally believe he is at least in part a result of extremely rotten parenting) a music lover cannot deny that he has: 1) Made some great music, including writing and composing, something many who are simply performers never did/do 2) Influenced music like few have 3) Entertained the world at an iconic level few have 4) has a lean patented Jackson will forever have a place in history both as legendary musician/entertainer and legendary quack. Since people are willing to pay to see both, I'm not surprised he can still sell tickets. Now I'm prepared to get attacked by people that claim to be real music lovers but didn't ever like Jackson. Fine. I define a music lover as someone who can appreciate music from any genre, whether it the genre(s) you prefer or not. If you can recognize good songs when you hear them, I hold that you have liked at least one song in your lifetime to which Jackson contributed. He was extremely talented.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 06-01-2009 03:36 AM                     So you can appreciate gangsta rap? How about experimental music, such as Throbbing Gristle? Sorry, but what you are stating is an opinion. Just because a "music lover" doesn't like Michael Jackson...either before or after the freak show started...in no way means that person isn't a music lover. The link above is a classic Gristle song, so I firmly expect for you to listen to it frequently so you may continue your status as a music lover.  |  IP: Logged Chad Souder Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 962 From: Waterloo, IA, USA Registered: Feb 2000 posted 06-01-2009 09:40 AM                     That song would be perfect as background music in a Rob Zombie movie. But no, I didn't care for it. I don't even know what I would classify it as. I'm not saying you have to like everything, but you should be able to find something in every genre that is, at a composition level, good. Many good songs have sat dormant for years until someone else came along, reworked the arrangement and performed it better. As for "gangsta rap," it is generally not my cup of tea, but Dr. Dre made some fantastic stuff and had an incredible influence on the direction of music in general. Also, the collaboration of Public Enemy working with Anthrax to redo Bring the Noise influenced and helped to give birth to a whole new style of music. Sometimes you can surprise yourself by listening to some type of music you've never given a chance and you'll find something you never knew you would like. Years ago, I initially dismissed bands like Nine Inch Nails, Iron Maiden, and N.W.A. due to the marketing and audience associated with each. I found later they all had some remarkable music.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 06-01-2009 10:07 AM                     The point is that it is BS to say that someone isn't a real music lover because they don't like my favorite artist. I like MJ's singing, but I'm not going to belittle someone who disagrees with me.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 06-01-2009 11:08 AM                     Chad, you make the mistake of equating "appreciation" and "love." One can appriciate the contributions one has made without even so much as liking any of them. I dislike about 95% of Jazz and any real music lover LOVES Jazz...or so I'm told. I do appreciate Jazz and respect that MANY folks consider it to be THE form of music. I'm okay with that. I perfer Rock and R&B mostly. However I do like others, particularly on a selective basis. I think most will indeed agree that MJ has contributed a lot to POP music though you will find many of those same people do not like his musical style. They are not denying that he was/is great, just that they don't care for his music. MJ, in his price, was definitely an entertainer and that is a matter of historical fact...it also doesn't mean a "real music lover" has to love HIS music or style. Steve  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-01-2009 04:40 PM                     There are a few MJ songs I still like but I wouldn't go to one of hiz concerts for a million bucks. In fact I wouldn't want to be within 10 miles of it for a hundred grand! Mark  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 06-01-2009 04:47 PM                        Yes you would. That is easy money.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-01-2009 07:24 PM                        Hell, I'd go to a Michael Jackson concert for as little as one grand. Nobody loves EVERY kind of music. However, many people can recognize talent. There are plenty of music lovers, for example, who would say that any music that isn't classical is crap. In my case, I hate almost all rap music, but I can tell that Eminem is a good rapper even though I don't like his music. I'm not into alterna-rock either, but Nirvana was a helluva talented band. I'm also not a country fan, but I know a good voice when I hear one.  |  IP: Logged Chad Souder Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 962 From: Waterloo, IA, USA Registered: Feb 2000 posted 06-01-2009 08:25 PM                     Steve - I think you're saying it better than I did. That's what I meant. I haven't been a fan of MJ since I was a young teen, but I now appreciate and applaud his contributions to musical history. This conversation has got me thinking, however. I have started another post here. [ 06-01-2009, 09:11 PM: Message edited by: Brad Miller ]  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 06-01-2009 09:12 PM                     Had to fix your link there Chad. It went nowhere, just like Michael Jackson's....awww forget it. Cheap shot.  |  IP: Logged

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