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Author Topic: The Rodenator Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 04-19-2009 04:19 AM                        quote: Chris Slycord Then why was it that the bedbug problem only got out of control recently rather than some time close to when DDT was banned? There was no bedbug problem even in the 2000, so did the lack of DDT cause that too? "Bedbugs were believed to be altogether eradicated 50 years ago in the United States and elsewhere with the widespread use of DDT." --- Cranshaw. W.S. F.B. Peairs. "Bat Bugs and Bed Bugs." "Bed bug infestations were common in the United States before World War II. But with improvements in hygiene, and especially the widespread use of DDT during the 1940s and ‘50s, the bugs all but vanished.....In recent years, bed bugs have also made a comeback in the U.S., increasingly being encountered in homes, apartments, hotels, motels, health care facilities, dormitories, shelters, schools, and movie theatres (yipes!)....Immigration and international travel have undoubtedly contributed to the resurgence of bed bugs in the U.S. Changes in modern pest control practice, and less effective bed bug pesticides are other factors suspected for the recurrence. -- Bed Bugs, Michael F. Potter, Extension Entomologist University of Kentucky College of Agriculture  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 04-19-2009 10:50 AM                     You seemed to not understand what I was getting at. I'm well aware that the use of DDT helped get rid of bed bugs. But I asked why the lack of DDT, which happened decades ago, is the main impetus for a sudden increase in bed bugs 37 years after the ban went into place (banned in 1972). I agree with you that a reason we have a hard time dealing with the infestations is the lack of DDT, but I am just saying that if the cause of the bed bug increase was DDT being banned, I would've expected the bed bug problem to have occurred within a few years of the ban rather than a few decades later.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 04-19-2009 11:17 AM                     I think increased "globalism," meaning more imported goods and imported people are bringing in creepy crawlies we haven't had in decades. Whether or not it's P.C. to say it, the fact remains that many nations are hundreds of years behind the United States in terms of cultural advancement and development of infrastructure. This makes a big difference with certain parasites and diseases being able to flare up in a certain place. When we flush a toilet the contents flow to a sewage treatment plant. In many other countries a toilet's contents merely spill into a ditch next to the road, which spills into a river where many others are bathing, washing clothes or getting their drinking water. In some places people don't have any toilets to use at all. They're reduced to relieving themselves in a public place, even the middle of the street. This provides great conditions for something like a cholera outbreak. I'm wondering if increased globalism will lead to diseases like Malaria getting a strong foot-hold in the United States. Malaria helped kill off many of those who settled the original Jamestown Colony in Virginia during the 1600s, but some suggest the Malaria carrying mosquitoes actually came along with the English settlers by way of slaves and goods they brought along from West Africa. I guess all it will take for Malaria to become a serious problem in the US is if enough mosquitoes from Central America, West Africa or SE Asia wind up here somehow.  |  IP: Logged Jim Bedford Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 597 From: Telluride, CO, USA (733 mi. WNW of Rockwall, TX but it seems much, much longer) Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-19-2009 04:11 PM                        Back to rodents; take your bugs to another thread. So we have an 800 acre valley coming into Telluride that the community condemned five years ago and bought last year for $50M. Before the region's people bought the valley floor it was used for grazing cattle (hence only paid some $6K/yr in agricultural property tax) and the guys who ran the cattle made sure their stock wouldn't break their legs in prairie dog holes (using the "don't tell how" policy.) Well, after the cows went home the prairie dogs moved in with a vengeance, hundreds of them. Of course, people, many of whom moved in after the prairie dogs did, stood up for these nasty little, flea-bitten, plague-ridden rat-brothers as if they had squatters' rights. The story is still unfolding but one of the proposed solutions was this (still yet to be tried here): Prairie Dog Vacuum  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 04-19-2009 07:38 PM                     The Prairie Dog vacuum thing doesn't work very well at all. Prairie dog town populations have to be actively managed. Kill a few, preserve the rest. A bunch of ninnies in my town don't seem to want to do that. They don't seem to be aware of the very real fact that prairie dogs are not over-breeding rodents. They breed only once a year. The local knuckleheads need to prove me wrong on that if they'll bother to try. I've done my research on the topic. That puts prairie dogs well above dogs, cats, mice, rats and a lot of other mammals who breed like crazy all year long. Hell, even people can breed more than once a year. Shit, I see that right here in Lawton, OK with all the white trash meth heads running around toothless yet on the make. Oh, but they're "human beings." If I had my way I'd have at least 95% (or 100%) of teenagers "tubes" tied off so their stupidity and impulsiveness wouldn't cause so much more trouble for us taxpayers. They would have to complete an education and get marketable job skills before earning their responsibility (NOT a right) to reproduce. The biggest environmental catastrophe taking place world-wide is people over-populating wherever they live. People fucking out lots more kids causes a LOT more damage than any rodents, birds, fish or whatever else doing their own thing. We create much more of the problem than anything else. [ 04-20-2009, 06:36 AM: Message edited by: Bobby Henderson ]  |  IP: Logged

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