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Jeff Stricker
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 - posted 06-27-2009 10:13 AM      Profile for Jeff Stricker   Email Jeff Stricker   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Recently saw some Kodachrome slides shot in the '30's. Still looks like they were shot yesterday. Will they continue to make Ektachrome, since its developing process is quite simple?

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Jeff, I don't see any future for film to speak of except revival showings on some quaint old dusty equipment down the road. Technology is moving all too quickly to ensure that it doesn't last for ever.

Kodak should have sold the process to the Chineese so it could live on for at least another while... but I bet that Kodak was loosing money making it even once a year.

Mark

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Mike Blakesley
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 - posted 06-27-2009 12:14 PM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
One thing digital can't duplicate is, you can't hold a CD or a hard drive up to the light and see what picture you've got! [Big Grin]

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote:
One thing digital can't duplicate is, you can't hold a CD or a hard drive up to the light and see what picture you've got!
No, but you can look at a shit load of thumbnails on one screen and if a few happen to be upside down or backwords you just click a button to fix it you don't have to risk touching the original...

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Stephen Furley
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quote:
One thing digital can't duplicate is, you can't hold a CD or a hard drive up to the light and see what picture you've got! [Big Grin]
This is actually an important point; many historically important films have been found in unexpected places. Even if it's in a format that's been dead for a hundred years you can at least look at it, and see what you've got, and if it's something important then you might be able to persuade somebody to put up the money to preserve and copy it. Even if it is in a strange format, making a gate with registration pins, and manually re-photographing it frame by frame isn't too difficult.

With some long-obsolete digital media, holding files in some long-obsolete format it may well be possible to construct equipment to read it if the original no longer exists, though not as easy as it is with film, but you would have to do this, and find the money to do it, just to find out what's on the media, and whether it's restorable. You would have to spend the money just to find out that the content is unreadable, or of no interest, or already exists in a better form elsewhere.

People who find old reels of film often offer them to archives; people in future who find old digital media, and have no idea what's on them, are more likely to throw them away.

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System Notices
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It has been 548 days since the last post.


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Hillary Charles
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Tomorrow is the last day Dwayne's is accepting Kodachrome for processing. It has to be in by 12 noon.

There was a great segment about it on CBS Sunday Morning.

The only thing I found wrong was when they said that Steve McCurry took the follow-up photo of the Afghan woman in Kodachrome. According to another video on YT (ironically entitled, "Change is Good") he said that the original was taken in Kodachrome, but the follow-up was shot with Ektrachrome.

Other than that, a well-done segment.

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Steve Guttag
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RIP Kodachrome...probably the best film ever on so many points. Talk about a product that must have had some sort of divine intervention.

Oddly enough, I don't think anything out there today, digital or film can compare to it when it comes to the final product and just how long it will last.

This is (or should be) a very sad day...how much of the world has been recorded on Kodachrome and there really isn't a worthy successor to it.

-Steve

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Scott Norwood
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My last roll arrived at Dwayne's on 12/29 (per Fedex). I suspect that they are probably swamped this week with last-minute orders from people like me. Their turnaround time is usually about a week, but I would not be surprised if it took at least 2-3x that long for this order.

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Mike Blakesley
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In honor of Kodachrome, I offer this Kodachrome shot taken by my dad in the early 1960s on the Yellowstone River at Forsyth, MT.

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Scott Norwood
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Good idea, Mike.

Here is a Kodachrome shot of my grandmother. I took this one in October of 2010; it was processed at Dwayne's. I don't know why she is laughing.

She just turned 90 this week! At the party, I showed a bunch of old family slides, many of which were Kodachromes.

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Brad Miller
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Hitler gets the news

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Hillary Charles
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Mark, the Chinese may be working on it. I sold a few rolls of Kodachrome 25 earlier last year to someone in China, and heard the same story from someone else. SOMETHING is going on...

And I apologize if this has been posted elsewhere, but this has been making the rounds on the interwebs, and it's worth including these stunning Kodachrome images of America, 1939-1943 in this thread. The film captured history. Now it is history.

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