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Author Topic: Indoor cat fence recommendation Charles Greenlee Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 801 From: Savannah, Ga, U.S. Registered: Jun 2006 posted 08-04-2009 11:53 PM                        quote: Joe Redifer My new cat gets the water bottle if it goes where I do not want it to go. Yeah, tried that when my cat would come to my bedroom door and meow constantly while I'm trying to get to sleep. She just learned to stay just outside my door where the bottle wouldn't reach and then meow. I'd hoped she'd learn not to do it at all. Though admittedly, she did it when she was in heat, and having her fixed cured that. Unfortunatly, she was fixed after the practice of spraying had set in, so even after being fixed she'll spray stuff.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 08-05-2009 03:37 AM                        Looks like you've been taught a lesson, Chuck. Never delay chopping up your pet's reproductive bits! If I wanted to train my cat not to meow even when outside the room as in your situation, I'd spray it in the face with a super-soaker ANY time it meowed.  |  IP: Logged Sam Graham AKA: "The Evil Sam Graham". Wackiness ensues. Posts: 1431 From: Waukee, IA Registered: Dec 2004 posted 08-05-2009 02:28 PM                        quote: Tim Reed Cat in the laptop bag... I have one of those... Notice how he's caught the mouse.  |  IP: Logged Phil Blake Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 558 From: esperance western australia Registered: Nov 2003 posted 08-06-2009 07:30 PM                        like a cork in a bottle  |  IP: Logged Charles Greenlee Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 801 From: Savannah, Ga, U.S. Registered: Jun 2006 posted 08-11-2009 04:05 PM                        Yeah, well it wasn't my cat sadly. Cute cat, love her to death, just hate her behavior. Personally, I'd hate having to butcher the animal in any way by having it fixed, but a necessary evil I guess. Anyway, she's been fixed for years now and still sprays. Odd that spraying is typically a behavior of unfixed male cats. I think I'll have to pick up a surveillance system with one of those screen that can show like 9 cameras at a time, and watch for her doing it so I can bust in there while she's in the act with one of those canned air horns they use at sporting events. Unless you catch them in the act, if they do learn anything from being punished later it would be to avoid getting caught. I did use my super soaker on her once. I don't know which made things wetter, the supersoaker, or the resulting scaring the piss out of her. I'd hoped it'd make a big enough impression for her to stay away, but nope, just a futile attempt not worth the borderline cruelty. Not my cat, so limited what I can do about it.  |  IP: Logged Richard Hamilton Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1341 From: Evansville, Indiana Registered: Jan 2000 posted 08-11-2009 05:35 PM                     Gun  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 08-15-2009 02:52 AM                        Doberman.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-15-2009 10:41 AM                     I once had a cat who pissed in the potted plants. We had a large dieffenbacha in a pot on the floor. The cat used to climb up and piss in the pot. At first, I put gravel on top of the dirt. It looked nice and I hoped that it would discourage the cat from climbing on top of the gravel. Nope! The cat just pushed it aside, leaving gravel all over the floor and a pissed-in house plant. Next, I put chicken wire on top of the gravel. Nope! The cat just climbed on top of the chicken wire and did his business. We tried using a water bottle but, as others say, it simply stops the bad behavior when people are around. Finally, I got a SuperSoaker water gun. One of the magnum ones with two water tanks. One day, I walked into the room. The cat was on top of the plant, just beginning to do its business. I sneaked in, picked up the water gun and got right up close. I yelled, "NO!!" at the top of my lungs hit the furry, little bastard right between the eyes at point-blank range with a blast from the fully-charged SuperSoaker. The cat spent the rest of the day hiding under the sofa but it never came within ten feet of that plant for the rest of its life! There are two things that are absolutely necessary when training a dog or cat or any other animal: Consistency and immediacy. Always punish or praise immediately upon noticing the targeted behavior. If the animal does something you want it to do, praise it, pet it and/or feed it right away. If the animal is doing something you don't want, yell at it while it's IN THE ACT! Even a 10 second delay will cause the animal to lose the association between the behavior and the praise or punishment. Always praise or punish the same way every time and do it for the same behavior. If you squirt a cat for peeing on the floor one time but don't do it another time the cat does not associate a specific act with the human's desire to stop that act. Always praise or always punish for the same act, the same way and at the second the act is committed. My brother and I once taught our dog (a black lab) to jump over a broomstick in about 1 or 2 sessions spread out over a weekend. We put the broomstick on the ground and led him over the broomstick on his leash while calling, "Over!" The SECOND all four feet made it over that broomstick he got petted, praised "Good boy!" and a small drink of beer. (Damn! That dog LOVED beer!) After that, we raised the broomstick up about 6 inches and repeated. We continued walking him over, praising and repeating the process, raising the broomstick another 6 inches each time. It took two people teaching the exact same thing and using the exact same commands and rewards to teach the dog. But, if you stick to your guns and maintain consistency and immediacy every time, it's possible to teach an animal to do almost anything. (Or teach it NOT to do anything.)  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-15-2009 12:17 PM                     quote: Randy Stankey There are two things that are absolutely necessary when training a dog or cat or any other animal: Consistency and immediacy. Hence the desire for a cat fence. The fence is always there, humans aren't. I picked up some PetSafe wireless fences and did some testing with them (no cats involved) and they do perform as they claim. There are 5 levels of correction and the lowest setting is barely even noticeable. It certainly won't hurt them, but it should train them.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 08-15-2009 12:38 PM                        This calls for the very most patient animal trainer in the world. . . . . the CAT whisperer! Louis  |  IP: Logged

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