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Author Topic: Post your random VIDEO links here (part 2)
Jennifer Pan
THE JEN!

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 - posted 10-28-2009 04:32 AM      Profile for Jennifer Pan   Author's Homepage   Email Jennifer Pan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The XLR condenser mic(GT55) connects directly to the camera, if we had used the on camera mic it would have sounded WAY worse.

The show is for shits and giggles, maybe to get noticed through word of mouth and get picked up for a real show... who knows. But we're not getting paid, its coming out of our own time and production setup we already have. Unless ya'll want to donate to increase the production value of the show that would be really awesome. [Smile]

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Alex Edwards
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Has this happened at anyone else's theater?
Twilight Trailer Reaction

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John Wilson
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Incredibly...yes.

We had to pull the trailers as it was taking too long to get the bear out of the auditorium every session.

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Bobby Henderson
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quote: Jennifer Pan
The XLR condenser mic(GT55) connects directly to the camera, if we had used the on camera mic it would have sounded WAY worse.
Top mic audio almost always is just plain bad, even on the best high dollar professional video cameras. Too much ambient crap noise getting into the audio. Why even bother putting mics on those kind of cameras? It's like putting a weak-ass built-in flash on a pro-level D-SLR camera (the pros use speedlights and a lot of other stuff instead). If someone is going to use the camera's top mic he might as well not white balance so he can have blue looking video to go along with the crap audio. The only way I see top mic audio to be permissible is if you're shooting a basic "home movie" kind of video where any measure of professional quality doesn't matter at all.

On top of that, good quality sound gear doesn't cost quite as much as the video gear. It's a lot better to clip a Lavalier mic on someone and have it wired into a tape deck or even directly into the camera (if the camera can take the input and balance it).

quote: Joe Redifer
This is page 10.
My bad. I got this thread confused with another "links" thread that was on reply #666. I'll look more closely before clicking next time.

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Greg Anderson
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quote: Bobby Henderson
Why even bother putting mics on those kind of cameras?
Because sometimes you want to record the ambient sound and you shouldn't need outboard sound gear to do that.

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Bobby Henderson
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The problem is the outboard gear still delivers far better results for recording ambient sounds than any video camera top mic. Any professional sound guy is going to use a dedicated mic and audio deck for recording natural audio instead of pointing a video camera at the sound he wants to record.

The only time where top mic natural audio serves any purpose is collecting B-roll footage for the 6 o'clock news. I can't immediately think of other legit purposes for it.

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Joe Redifer
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Bobby, I don't know where this discussion is coming from since Jen said that she did not use the built-in microphone. However for the next episode we will use the built-in camera mic EXCLUSIVELY!

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John Wilson
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quote: Phil Hill
Playmate Of The Year


Woof! She's a real dog.

(Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....)

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Greg Anderson
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In less than an hour, "top mic audio" went from only being acceptable in home movies to being good enough for broadcast B-roll. Keep going. [Smile]

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Bobby Henderson
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I was being a bit facetious with the 6 o'clock news remark. Look at the level of production quality at most TV stations in smaller viewing markets. It isn't all that great. Natural audio on news packages will often be top mic audio because the videographer isn't going to go to the trouble of carrying along a boom mic (much less bringing along an additional crew member to hold and point the damned thing). Thankfully the mics used by the news reporter dude can be plugged into the camera. Otherwise it would all be top mic audio.

quote: Joe Redifer
Bobby, I don't know where this discussion is coming from since Jen said that she did not use the built-in microphone.
All I was doing was agreeing with Jen's choice to use an external mic instead of the camera's top mic. I just went into extra detail about it.

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Phil Hill
I love my cootie bug

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Rod Stewart - Hot Legs

The below tune was one of my favorites and that of my 7-year long-time companion, Tom. I STILL regret I Broke up with him...I can let go of many mistakes in my past, BUT some, like this, I just cannot let go even to this day.

I was f*cking STUPID to listen to so called "friends" that said it would never work out...!

"You're In My Heart":

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Phil Hill
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Gay Straight Guys

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Brad Miller
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Wal-Mart is awesome. There is simply no better place to buy EVERYTHING you could ever need!

(Well ok, they don't sell this treehouse.)

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Sean Weitzel
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I guess us Californians are generally shielded from the prime of Walmart (a-la- http://www.peopleofwalmart.com )

Last fall while Beth and I were setting out to make a marathon drive from Dallas, TX back home to California, I was treated to witnessing my first bleach blonde high school age mother complete with hospital wristband still intact and newborn in the shopping cart buying baby supplies with foodstamps at the Walmart we had stopped at to stock up on snacks and caffenated drinks. I guess you really CAN get everything you need at Walmart - From cradle to grave.

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Jennifer Pan
THE JEN!

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Hey Brad, this be the Random Video thread, yo, not da Random Linkz thread. Word to ya mutha!

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