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Author Topic: 3D is starting to look flat at the box office Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 09-05-2009 01:03 PM                     We're starting an interesting "fad" over here: At my discount house and another house that just went discount in our tiny circuit, is to add the NEC 1600 model along with "Real D" and begin the $4.00, 3D movieviewing experience - being that our regular admits are $2.00 a seat. Tons cheaper than the $13.00 viewing price for a new 3D movie ... just that the patrons have to wait a few months until the new flicks become available for discount releases. -Monte  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-05-2009 01:57 PM                     Or Regal will hold those pictures forever and you may never get them once they catch onto what you are up to.  |  IP: Logged Galen Murphy-Fahlgren Master Film Handler Posts: 405 From: Canton, MI, USA Registered: Oct 2007 posted 09-05-2009 02:12 PM                     Mark, if a first run for some reason holds a movie into the second run release, are you saying that it can't be booked in second run in that market? Since the studios only goal is to make money (even if they seem to do a poor job of it sometimes), that would seem counter intuitive, because it would prevent the incremental revenue from a second run release, while not raising any revenue from the first run, since they will be selling an average of 0 tickets per show more than two months into the run.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-05-2009 02:19 PM                        Studios usually have a sub-run availability date in mind from the get-go. Mark's scenario would work if there were no prints available, but if there are prints, I think they would book'em wherever they can (provided there aren't any non-compete agreements in place with the chain involved). quote: Galen Murphy-Fahlgren Since the studios only goal is to make money As is the goal of every other for-profit business. Why is that bad?  |  IP: Logged Adam Martin I'm not even gonna point out the irony. Posts: 3686 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Nov 2000 posted 09-06-2009 07:16 PM                     OMG 3D! OMG Cinerama! OMG CinemaScope! OMG TV! OMG Color!  |  IP: Logged Julio Roberto Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 938 From: Madrid, Madrid, Spain Registered: Oct 2008 posted 09-07-2009 04:59 AM                    I still have my faith on Smell-o-vision and Sex-surround to save the industry. And cinerama for premiun houses, of course. Otherwise, I think color and cinemascope are going to dissapear. And 3D will be replaced with 4 or 5 D. But 4 channel magnetic sound will for sure rule forever.  |  IP: Logged Jake Spell Master Film Handler Posts: 294 From: Johns Island SC Registered: May 2009 posted 09-07-2009 10:29 AM                     Was Cinerama ever in 3-D?  |  IP: Logged Bruce Hansen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 847 From: Stone Mountain, GA, USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 09-07-2009 11:14 AM                     quote: Tim Reed Btw, Bruce... I saw your name in "Halloween 2". I noticed a lot of video playback on that show Thanks for letting me know, Tim. Well, now I guess I will have to go see it. Doing video playback, you are not on set every day, so you do not usually "rate" a credit. The director did not want to color correct most of the playback for 3200K, so I would guess that most of it looked a bit blue, and they shot on supper 16 for the "grainy look". It will be interesting to see what it looks like  |  IP: Logged Julio Roberto Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 938 From: Madrid, Madrid, Spain Registered: Oct 2008 posted 09-07-2009 11:31 AM                    quote: Jake Spell Was Cinerama ever in 3-D? Nope. But a close-call is the Terminator 3D attraction at Universal Studios theme park in Orlando. They do a three-pane (3 screens) 70mm stereoscopic 3D projection during part of the show, very much like a 70mm 3D cinerama. Also, Imax briefly did anaglyphic 3D (red-and-blue glasses) before they came up with their "true" 3D systems (they used LCS electronic glasses sequential system as well as passive linear polarized for that).  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 09-07-2009 12:26 PM                        quote: Jake Spell Was Cinerama ever in 3-D? WOW... imagine what that would have been like in the early '60s... Two projectors in each booth, plus the dubber, all selsyn-synched... and carbon arcs, too! Keeping all that together in a relatively seamless presentation would be mind-numbing for the time... but the unions would have loved it back then. 1 operator per machine, plus the master control guy... 8 projectionists in one place... plus some of those venues also required stage hands, didn't they?  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 09-07-2009 02:02 PM                        3D Cinerama -- wow, that sure would knock you for a loop -- the MUTHA of all gimmicks. I am trying to comprehend what the multiple hotspots would look like on the deeply curved silver screen made up of thousands of slits aimed forward. It sure would be an interesting spectacle. Talking about interesting spectacles and Cinerama -- how long will it take before someone recreates Cinerama with digital projection? That would be quite an interesting project. Scan all three filmstrips of one of the original Cineram films, use 3 D-Cinema booths to project on a Cinerama spec screen. I bet the seams could be matched pixel to pixel and not look nearly as obvious as with film projection. I'm thinking it wouldn't take much to do it, I mean, except for the money. HOW THE WEST WAS ONE could be easily done that way.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 09-07-2009 04:24 PM                     Disney's Philharmagic in Walt Disney World is 2/3rds of the way there. They have 3D on the center section and 2D on the Left and Right sections. They also combine "4D" elements in (odors, bubbles...what nots). It is a film based attraction and sponsored by Kodak. Steve  |  IP: Logged Caleb Johnstone-Cowan Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 593 From: London, UK Registered: Mar 2006 posted 09-07-2009 04:46 PM                     quote: Frank Angel how long will it take before someone recreates Cinerama with digital projection? HTWWW was presented through one digital projector at Bradford on to their Cinerama screen. There are some reviews on here if you search for the Widescreen Weekend threads.  |  IP: Logged Chad Souder Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 962 From: Waterloo, IA, USA Registered: Feb 2000 posted 09-07-2009 05:06 PM                     quote: Mike Blakesley Mark's scenario would work if there were no prints available, but if there are prints, I think they would book'em wherever they can (provided there aren't any non-compete agreements in place with the chain involved). Except we're talking about digital 3D, so there are no prints involved??? If a studio wants another copy to distribute, they grab a hard drive and make one. Mark's scenario would be unrealistic because the release schedule of 3D movies is not that long. At 9+ 3D movies per year, Regal, or whomever, would be playing the next 3D release anyway, unless a complex was outfitted with multiple 3D auditoriums, then chose to hold the older flick, regardless of attendance, on one of them while opening the new one(s) on the other(s). That doesn't sound too likely to happen unless we find a 3D movie with Hangover type legs.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 09-07-2009 05:46 PM                     Any first run movie isn't going to be worth first run status when it stops putting enough butts into the seats at first run prices. Time to get it out of the theater complex regardless of whether any bargain house makes money showing it. Gotta make room for the newer movies. There is a significant part of the market that is perfectly willing to wait for the 2nd run/bargain houses to get a certain movie, even if the 2nd run/bargain house is a dump. If Regal wanted to hold onto a certain 3D movie to keep a bargain house from showing it in 3D then Regal would only be hurting themselves. They would have the 3D movie playing to a virtually empty auditorium. Not everyone is willing to pay $13 to see a movie in 3D.  |  IP: Logged

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