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Hillary Charles
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Don't get me started on broadcast equipment! I keep telling John I want a TK-41 color telelvision camera! He doesn't take that request very seriously, but told me about the old TK-30's and such he saw stored at WSBA (the oldest surviving UHF station, which doesn't mean as much since the switch to DTV) when he worked there. Naturally, he taunts me by speculating those cameras ended up in the dumpster. [Frown]

Maybe I mentioned it before, but here is the kind of collection I'm trying to build (yeah, right!) [Big Grin]

It would be great to get that old RCA working properly. I have a VHS of kines from the late 1940s for whenever that happens.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Chuck Pharis has the largest collection in the world... even larger then the Smithsonian. He sets a few of them up at NAB just about every year and has them working.

No old RCA Toobe cameras around here... unfortunately. I missed a TK-30 on E-bay last summer that a customer of mine pointed out to me. I missed the end of auction time. It only went for about $900, very reasonable for that vintage camera.

I can send you a 1984 Sony BVP-360 triax camera chain that does produce a picture. This was a very revolutionary camera in it's day and the last toobe studio camera built by anyone. Some of the last BVP-360's actually went out as CCD cameras badged BVP-370. No pedestal or friction head though... Camera Head, Viewfinder, Fujinon Zoom, and CCU. I aquired three of them in a package deal early this past summer for 700 bucks... just pay shpping if you want it or pick it up here. The lens is the only actual valualable part of the camera. I just want to keep one for display and find the others good homes. Shipping weight is about 200 pounds total. Film-Techer Bob Jones used to work with these cameras at Sporting Events.... this trio came from Alabama Public TV.

Also see: www.eyesofageneration.com

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Hillary Charles
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Thanks for the offer! I'll see if I can wear down John for some extra room around here. He's always buying old radios on ebay, so there must be some space to put this stuff!

Just checking out that site. Definitely one to "favorite." [Cool]

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Phil Hill
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quote: Hillary
...I want a TK-41 color telelvision camera!
I liked the TK-42 better...I grew-up with them when I was young punk at WXYZ-TV. [uhoh] [Razz] [thumbsup]

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I owned a TK-60 and control console at one time...long gone now. [Frown]

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Rick Hunter
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I dug this up to take a photo & said, What the heck....plugged it in, switched it on and...
Memory check, the huge 10Mb hard drive whirred & up came the menu.
Here it is runninig XTREE Gold.
This unit has not been powered up for over 20 years.
They don't make 'em like that anymore....the keyboard weighs as much as my laptop.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Phil... that was a really cool camera! I worked with a guy that was at a station in Springfield, MO that had those. He said it took 1000 fc to light the news set adaquately and it got so hot in there they had to take ythe lights down beteeen everycommercial. He said they also ran extra commercials during the news...

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Phil Hill
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Mark: I still have somewhere in this hell-hole I call home, a brand new RCA 5820A Image Orthicon. Too Cool!

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Hillary Charles
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Yeah Phil, that TK-42 does look cool. That would make a nice display piece. I like the TK-41 (or 40) for their Greyhound Bus profile and historic nature, but I wouldn't pass up a 42 if the opportunity presented itself.

Funny to think that it took such behemoths and racks and racks of tube gear, plus a 2-inch quad VTR to do something that can now be done with a palm-sized camcorder.

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Rick Hunter
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My 4 1/2 inch IO, 25mm plumbicon & a 18mm plumbicon.

There is a VR1000 console in the garage but it is too hard to get to to photograph.

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Tim Reed
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Damien Taylor
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Good point Tim, do any of the broadcast collectors have tk1s?

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Kenneth Wuepper
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Ah! Yes! The Indian Head Test Pattern.

Our TG-2A sync generator had a cross hatch pattern output so you could superimpose that over the TP and adjust linearity and proper scanning of the image tube. That is the purpose for the cross hatched background.

Our film chain was an Iconoscope unit we were given when the Grand Rapids station went to Vidicons and that new fangled COLOR stuff.

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Hillary Charles
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Thanks for that, Tim! That test pattern practically hypnotizes me! [Eek!]

Funny story about that, John remembers when many stations still ran that test pattern (and I tell him he's an old fart! [Razz] ). Well, one of the stations was WTPA (now WHTM), but he used to think that the Indian had something to do with its call letters, especially the "Tee Pee." [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

I've seen photos of the TK1, and I'm sure Chuck Pharis has one (or one hundred!). He also has what he believes is the original artwork for the Indian Head test pattern, rescued from a dumpster in Camden.

Okay, here's some pictures for those who like to see vintage broadcast equipment in their natural habitat. An old friend lent me his collection of stereo slides he'd taken in Lebanon PA in the 1950s. Among them was a sizable selection taken in the short-lived local tv station WLBR, which now is the CW15. He allowed me to make high quality copies of the slides which is like stepping back in time. This is the best way I can share them with you.

The Blue Ridge Boys performing live on WLBR-TV, Nov. 28, 1953:

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And for those with 3D glasses (red over left eye):

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Randy Stankey
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quote: Hillary Charles
He also has what he believes is the original artwork for the Indian Head test pattern, rescued from a dumpster in Camden.
Two words: History Detectives!

http://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/about/submit.html

Serious! No joke! [Smile]

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Hillary Charles
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I'd LOVE to see that on History Detectives! That would make for a great segment.

You can see everything he's found out so far right here.

I was wrong about him finding it in Camden; it was Harrison, N.J.

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