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Author Topic: A camera loaded with "mystery film." Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-23-2010 06:06 PM                     Nobody did Kodachrome (re-read my post). It is black-magic...well it is dye-transfer...it is truly amazing stuff and it is criminal that Kodak won't do at least 1 run a year for whom ever wants it. It just hasn't and won't be topped. I too still have all of my stuff though I haven't set it up in probably 20-years...early '90s for sure. Steve  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-23-2010 06:15 PM                        I still have my last six rolls of Kodachrome here (not for sale!). Dwayne's Photo claims that they will continue to process it through the end of this year "or while supplies last." After that, the best that one will be able to do would be to process it as B&W at Rocky Mountain Film. I'm mostly a B&W guy, but I do like Kodachrome. I use C-41 color negative for "snapshots," but not for anything serious. I've never developed color film; I have mostly been scared away from that based on horror stories of what happens when the temperature of the chemistry isn't dead-on perfect. Right now, I'm rather obsessed with the 4x5 Speed Graphic and flashbulbs. It's fun to re-invent 1940.  |  IP: Logged Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 01-23-2010 07:10 PM                     quote: Steve Guttag Nobody did Kodachrome I've actually met somebody, Brian Coe, who used to hand process Kodachrome sheet film many years ago, but he used to work for Kodak. I met him when he used to give lectures at the National Film Theatre. quote: Steve Guttag It is black-magic...well it is dye-transfer Kodachrome has no connection with dye-transfer; it's an integral tripack colour film, but without the couplers incorporated in it as with just about every other colour film. Dye transfer printing isn't dead, even though Kodak stopped making the materials years ago. Some people stockpiled materials, others formulated their own dyes, and somebody even built a coating machine, and made his own matrix film. There's actually a dye transfer group on Yahoo. Man of the so-called alternative processes are having a revival, there are more people making wet plate photographs today than at any time in the last 110 tears or so, and it's not difficult to find wet plate courses; quite a few people run them. Take a look at the work of this Gentleman for example: web page Many people are trying the simpler processes, salt prints and cyanotypes for example, and there's a good book 'Spirits of Salts' about them; I think it's still in print. Even the more exotic, difficult, and sometimes downright dangerous, processes have a few practitioners; people are making daguerreotypes again, and incredibly even Lippmann photographs. I haven't done any photography for several years, but I do want to start again. I'm hoping to retire in four years, so I may get time then. quote: Scott Norwood Right now, I'm rather obsessed with the 4x5 Speed Graphic and flashbulbs. It's fun to re-invent 1940. What Speed Graphic do you have Scott; mine is an early Pacemaker. Do you have the flash and a supply of bulbs?  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-23-2010 08:29 PM                     quote: Steve Guttag Nobody did Kodachrome (re-read my post). You're right. It's that alphabet soup thing... K-14, E-6, C-41, D-76, T-Max, Tri-X, Plus-X... they all start to run together in my head. Dammitt!  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-23-2010 11:13 PM                     Scott...don't be scared about processing C-41. The last time I did it (about 20-years ago)...it got to be real stable...I don't recall having to really worry about the temp...I seem to recall that there was a processing time versus temp and that was about it. I don't think I ever had a C-41 not turn out. E-6 processing in the '70s was more tricky, for sure...definitely only something like a 2-degree window and I recall missing on one roll (or two as I often process two at a time). Steve  |  IP: Logged Bruce Hansen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 847 From: Stone Mountain, GA, USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-24-2010 04:13 PM                     Some years ago, I took a dark room class, and if I remember the number correctly, we did E-4 (this was before E-6 came out). It took an hour, and there were 13 steps. It was a pain. My film turned out great, and I still have it, although, I have never cut and mounted the slides.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-24-2010 08:57 PM                        I was going thru the closet in my office last night and ran across my old 35mm camera, a Yashica FR-1. It still had a 36-roll of film in it (Kodak 200, I think) that had about 12 exposures on it. I'm sure they'll be lame attempts at pics around the theatre here, but it'll be fun to see anyway.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-26-2010 04:39 PM                     Well I got the film back. Results were disappointing. The entire roll came out black. Looks like the film was exposed to room light or else it was so old it just went bad: Even the few shots I took at the end of the roll were fogged/exposed: I did not open the camera at any time before finishing and rewinding the roll. I took the rewound cartridge out of the camera, put it into my pocket and went directly to the store to get it developed. If the camera wasn't working properly I wouldn't expect to see the film black all the way to the edges. And, if somebody accidentally opened the camera with film inside without rewinding, I wouldn't expect the film that was still inside the cartridge to be black all the way to the edges, either. Shit... Disappointing...  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 01-26-2010 05:46 PM                        Bummer. But at least now you have a few feet of black slug to put to some use?  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 01-26-2010 06:06 PM                  Paul, you ASS! I was going to say that! You stoled MY thunder!  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-26-2010 06:19 PM                        Well...I sent my "mystery roll" in to get developed yesterday, so maybe I can salvage this thread with some interesting shots. (Probably just boring around-the-theatre pics though.)  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-26-2010 06:45 PM                        Randy, that'd make an awesome mask for some kind of design.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-26-2010 07:01 PM                     Well, I'm always bitching at the kids doing the advertising and marketing projects because they make strips of film with the wrong sprocket holes.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-26-2010 08:50 PM                        Oops I said "mask" when I meant matte. But you knew that. What really chaps my ass is when advertising or other graphics show "movie film" and the frame lines are waaaay off. Do some research, graphic artists!  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 01-26-2010 08:53 PM                     quote: Mike Blakesley maybe I can salvage this thread with some interesting shots Not to worry, if your roll doesn't have some interesting shots, I'm sure Joe can whip us up something.  |  IP: Logged

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