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Joe Redifer
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That won't stop record companies from producing shit recordings. It's not the fault of the medium.

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Martin McCaffery
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And Nitrate! I want Nitrate!!

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Mike Blakesley
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It was kinda nice back in the days of LPs when you could put any record onto any record player and expect to hear music. 'Course the needle might tear up your vinyl, but you could usually tell if that was going to happen by just looking at the equipment. Then you could turn up your nose and say "I'm not putting my virgin vinyl direct-disk-mastered Pink Floyd on THAT Radio Shack piece of crap!" and let somebody else put their Bachman-Turner Overdrive album on, because their music sounded pretty much the same even if the vinyl was torn up.

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Bobby Henderson
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One thing which makes this situation of loud yet shrill recordings even more idiotic is multiple media formats have been around for years that would deliver audio more dynamic and loud than standard CD and provide more capability to keep the audio clean.

DVD Audio and Super Audio CD were both largely ignored by the popular music industry. Classical and Jazz genres have dominated the release slate there. But then honestly great audio quality is typically more important to listeners of Jazz and Classical music.

Blu-ray can deliver the same kinds of very high quality audio boasted by DVD-A and SACD to a much larger install base, but not many music audio-only releases have utilized the format. Some concert videos on Blu-ray do feature 24-bit 96kHz 5.1 audio tracks.

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Bruce Hansen
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Thanks for all the input. Good idea Scott. I had been thinking that I would put together a computer just to be an audio server (some day). Hard drives are big enough that I would want to use CD quality, or some lossless format; but I would also want MP3 copies as well for other things, such as the iPod. A program that would give me both those formats would be good, so I did not have to rip everything twice.

I started using the 256K data rate in MP3 some years ago. I had made several 6 hour compilations to play at parties, and wanted to put them on MP3 CDs. Doing the calculations, I found that at 256K (bits) I could get just over 6 hours on a 700Meg CD-R. Why 6 hours? The first couple of these were done on reel to reel tape. A 3600' tape recorded at 3 3/4 IPS, 4 track (2 each direction) would run 6 hours. I had decks that would make 3 3/4 sound OK, so I used that speed. With an autoreverseing deck, the tape would play the entire 6 hours without me having to touch it.

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Bobby Henderson
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quote: Bruce Hansen
I had been thinking that I would put together a computer just to be an audio server (some day). Hard drives are big enough that I would want to use CD quality, or some lossless format; but I would also want MP3 copies as well for other things, such as the iPod.
Depending on the device you're using to play back the audio you won't need to bother with lossy compressed audio formats.

I have my CD collection (a little over 400 discs) ripped to a 1TB external hard drive in uncompressed LPCM format. There's still lots of room left on the drive. My Playstation 3 can see the hard disc's contents since it was formatted in FAT32. Most standalone Blu-ray players will not recognize external hard drives attached to their USB ports (one key thing of numerous things that make most standalone Blu-ray players pretty crappy). One limitation with the PS3 jukebox approach: you can't program music playlists from audio on external sources like hard discs, unless something changed very recently.

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