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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 10-25-2010 10:54 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Just watched that commercial. They're showing Gladiator or some such crap. What is this, straight from the theaters of 1999? DirecTV, only 11 years behind reality.

Also, the blow-dart guy is obviously stealing Indian movies as they are the only movies that come in cans like that. DirecTV customers are going to be disappointed again. I can't believe how much DirecTV must suck. I am glad I don't pay for their service like some schmuck.

Finally, TV stations haven't had projectionists for DECADES. Good luck trying to run that film through your Beta-whatever players, dumbasses.

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John Wilson
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It's Robin Hood, not Gladiator...but I can see how you'd be confused.

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Mike Blakesley
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It is true that NATO sent a letter to DirecTV about the commercial. It wasn't a "cease and desist" letter, it was just a letter expressing disappointment in the commercial and asserting that it glorifies movie theft.

NATO received a smart-assed response from DirecTV but due to the Film-Tech rules regarding posting of others' e-mails I'm not going to post it here. They basically said they are not going to change anything.

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Joe Tommassello
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 - posted 10-26-2010 03:56 PM      Profile for Joe Tommassello   Email Joe Tommassello       Edit/Delete Post 
I was impressed at how they squeezed 35mm prints into cans that probably wouldn't hold 16mm copies of the films.

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Joe Redifer
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35mm will fit in those types of cans just as long as it is on cores only, no reels. But it looks like the sides of the cans were labeled. Nobody does that even in India where such cans are actually used.

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Martin McCaffery
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So DirectTV shows used prints?

There is at least one one group of people who label cans like that: Editors. Maybe the theatre is getting the films straight from the editing booth [Wink]

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James Westbrook
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They seem to have pulled the ad from their website.

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Damien Taylor
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FWIW The booth scene in Fight Club was the Los Angeles.

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Scott Norwood
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I thought it was kind of a fun commercial, actually.

Round lab cans labelled with tape around the edges are common for archive prints and also 16mm educational and TV prints. I don't know why the 35mm people who ship prints in round lab cans don't label the cans this way--it's easier to read those labels than the round stickers on the face of the can (which get covered when cans are stacked).

Anyway, I'm sure that the producers weren't concerned about absolute accuracy--especially since (as mentioned above) TV stations haven't (generally) received movies in film form for a number of years, and most never had 35mm film chains, anyway.

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Bill Gabel
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quote: Joe Redifer
Finally, TV stations haven't had projectionists for DECADES.
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TV stations haven't (generally) received movies in film form for a number of years,
In the Los Angeles and New York markets TV stations have their own screening rooms. They do employ projectionists and it's a Great job. The boothes are equipped for 35mm and all broadcast video formats. And the TV stations do get 35mm prints for screenings as do Talent Agencies. The 35mm prints are from the Bel-Air circuit. I worked as the extra man at KABC's screening room in Los Angeles.

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Scott Norwood
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Interesting! But they don't get 35mm prints for actual broadcast use, correct?

Historically, did TV stations employ cinema projectionists to run film-chain equipment, or was that done by broadcast technicians? Was a distinction made between 16mm and 35mm equipment? As far as I have been able to determine, 35mm prints were used only for the networks and local stations in top markets (LA, NYC, and Chicago), not for general TV distribution; everything else was distributed on 16mm, even if it was originally shot on 35mm.

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Bill Gabel
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The film chain was more towards Broadcast Technicians there. Broadcast films came from tape formats depending on the station.
The job was open on a Seniority System and by test only, like studio screening rooms.

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Louis Bornwasser
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Scott: you have it right: NYC, Chicago, LA, maybe Boston back in the day.

"normal markets" like Cincinnati, Louisville, indianapolis had 16mm way back and tape later for syndicated shows and films. Louis

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Jesse Skeen
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Here's a commercial break from 1980 recorded from a station in Rochester running a movie on 16mm- they have a bit of a problem getting back to the movie after the last commercial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YHbLBUQbn0

And to stay on subject- how many movies are shown on DirecTV with no cropping, time compression, interruption, bugs or any other on-screen crap?

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Tony Bandiera Jr
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I don't use the movies channels on my DirecTv of late, but in the past they were presented in their theatrical aspect ratio, unedited and without on-screen bugs.

Finally!! Found a link to the VIDEO.

Enjoy!!

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