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Bruce Hansen
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From: Stone Mountain, GA, USA
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 04-20-2011 05:30 PM
Here in the US, we subsidize corn, making high fattening corn syrup cheep. Other countries arn't that stupid.
I think that the whole coke - new coke - new-old coke thing was all planed, and used to hide the switch from sugar to HFCS. The way coke did it does not fit their marketing concepts. When coke (or pepsi, or other drink maker) comes out with a new drink, they DO NOT get rid of the old drink. When coke came out with coke zero, they did not get rid of diet coke, etc. This alowes coke to take over more space on store shelves, and edge out the compatition. As long as something is selling, it will not be canceled. People who stocked up on old coke before it was canceled, compaired old coke to new-old coke, and said that they tasted differnt, and that new-old coke was not as good.
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Chris Slycord
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From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea
Registered: Mar 2007
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posted 04-20-2011 07:22 PM
quote: From what I have read, regular CokeŽ IS New CokeŽ and Diet CokeŽ tastes more like the original CokeŽ than current non-diet CokeŽ
New Coke was formulated as taking the mixture for Diet Coke and replacing the aspartame with HFCS. And I believe they've left Diet Coke alone since the beginning.
quote: Sam Graham Mexican bottlers once started following US bottlers in making the switch to cheaper HFCS. Cane sugar is a very important crop to the Mexican economy, so the government imposed a huge tax (25 percent if I remember correctly) on drinks made with HFCS.
I believe as mentioned above, it's more to do with us subsidizing corn and them not. Although maybe Mexico subsidizes sugar cane. Though I think it's telling that we're pretty much the only country with these types of drinks primarily sweetened with HFCS. I don't think everyone subsidizes sugar cane.
quote: Bruce Hansen I think that the whole coke - new coke - new-old coke thing was all planed, and used to hide the switch from sugar to HFCS. The way coke did it does not fit their marketing concepts. When coke (or pepsi, or other drink maker) comes out with a new drink, they DO NOT get rid of the old drink. When coke came out with coke zero, they did not get rid of diet coke, etc. This alowes coke to take over more space on store shelves, and edge out the compatition. As long as something is selling, it will not be canceled. People who stocked up on old coke before it was canceled, compaired old coke to new-old coke, and said that they tasted differnt, and that new-old coke was not as good.
I think all this shows is that after the New Coke fiasco, the Coca-Cola people said "Fuck, we're never doing *that* again." Really, everything with New Coke originates from them being bombarded with the commercials showing Pepsi defeating them left-and-right in taste tests and evidence that the younger demographics were choosing Pepsi by-and-large.
Oh and the Coke people sort of ignored that the sipping taste tests favored the higher sweetness of Pepsi while many people enjoyed Coke better when drinking a whole bottle of it simply because it wasn't so massively sweet.
In the end, it really was just them making a stupid decision.
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Stephen Furley
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From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England
Registered: May 2002
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posted 04-25-2011 07:05 AM
I don't like cola, so never drink it. I do sometimes drink sparkling orange or apple drinks and 'cloudy' lemonade, i.e. the type which actually contains some lemon juice rather than just water, acid, sweetener and gas.
I find the best lemonade is Fentimans, followed by Ben Shaws and Barrs. All drinks sweetened with sugar, either added or just what comes from the fruit taste better than those which use other sweeteners to me, but I have to be careful about drinking it.
Fentimans is available, though not widely, in the US; I don't know about Barrs and Ben Shaws.
Fentimans
Ben Shaws
Barrs
I did notice recently that in one of these, I think it was Barrs, the ingredients were slightly different in cans and bottles; I don't know why.
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Jim Cassedy
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From: San Francisco, CA
Registered: Dec 2006
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posted 04-25-2011 05:57 PM
You can buy individual bottles at many Mexican restaurants & taco trucks here in California, but I've been buying this stuff by the case from a local beverage distributor for years.
But they don't display or advertise it in any way in their store. They have it hidden in a back room and you have to ask for it, and you have to pay cash. It's almost like a drug deal!
I' ve been told that it's because selling Mexi-coke in the US technically violates some part of their distributorship contract with the Coca Cola company.
Albert-The-Cat, Carefully Guarding My Mexican Coke Stash 
Also, I've found you can get Chinese Coca-Cola here in Chinatown. These cans are not 'bottled' here in the US, they're actually imported from both Taiwan & Hong Kong. 
I'm not sure if the China-Coke is made with cane sugar or HFCS, since the ingredients are listed in Chinese. They taste like the Mexi-coke, with MSG added. 
My favorite soda, however, is STEWART's "Old Fashioned Cream Soda", which is only available in glass bottles.
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