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Sam Graham
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Mexican bottlers once started following US bottlers in making the switch to cheaper HFCS. Cane sugar is a very important crop to the Mexican economy, so the government imposed a huge tax (25 percent if I remember correctly) on drinks made with HFCS.

So the local bottlers stuck with sugar.

My favorite soda is Dublin Dr Pepper. Named after the world's oldest still-operating plant in Dublin, TX, they never switched to HFCS. It's still made with cane sugar. The cans and 8oz glass bottles are actually manufactured at a plant in the Dallas area now (the antique plant in Dublin just does small batches of returnables now).

I make semi-annual trips to Texas just to stock up on it.

Some fountains in Texas and Oklahoma have Dublin Dr Pepper on tap. It's clearly labeled as such.

I also have real sugar A&W, 7-Up, and Cheerwine in my fridge right now. All in glass bottles.

I used to buy Mexican Pepsi at a local Mexican grocer, but stopped when Throwback came along because there's no discernible difference in taste.

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Bruce Hansen
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Here in the US, we subsidize corn, making high fattening corn syrup cheep. Other countries arn't that stupid.

I think that the whole coke - new coke - new-old coke thing was all planed, and used to hide the switch from sugar to HFCS. The way coke did it does not fit their marketing concepts. When coke (or pepsi, or other drink maker) comes out with a new drink, they DO NOT get rid of the old drink. When coke came out with coke zero, they did not get rid of diet coke, etc. This alowes coke to take over more space on store shelves, and edge out the compatition. As long as something is selling, it will not be canceled. People who stocked up on old coke before it was canceled, compaired old coke to new-old coke, and said that they tasted differnt, and that new-old coke was not as good.

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Chris Slycord
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quote:
From what I have read, regular CokeŽ IS New CokeŽ and Diet CokeŽ tastes more like the original CokeŽ than current non-diet CokeŽ
New Coke was formulated as taking the mixture for Diet Coke and replacing the aspartame with HFCS. And I believe they've left Diet Coke alone since the beginning.

quote: Sam Graham
Mexican bottlers once started following US bottlers in making the switch to cheaper HFCS. Cane sugar is a very important crop to the Mexican economy, so the government imposed a huge tax (25 percent if I remember correctly) on drinks made with HFCS.
I believe as mentioned above, it's more to do with us subsidizing corn and them not. Although maybe Mexico subsidizes sugar cane. Though I think it's telling that we're pretty much the only country with these types of drinks primarily sweetened with HFCS. I don't think everyone subsidizes sugar cane. [Wink]

quote: Bruce Hansen
I think that the whole coke - new coke - new-old coke thing was all planed, and used to hide the switch from sugar to HFCS. The way coke did it does not fit their marketing concepts. When coke (or pepsi, or other drink maker) comes out with a new drink, they DO NOT get rid of the old drink. When coke came out with coke zero, they did not get rid of diet coke, etc. This alowes coke to take over more space on store shelves, and edge out the compatition. As long as something is selling, it will not be canceled. People who stocked up on old coke before it was canceled, compaired old coke to new-old coke, and said that they tasted differnt, and that new-old coke was not as good.
I think all this shows is that after the New Coke fiasco, the Coca-Cola people said "Fuck, we're never doing *that* again." Really, everything with New Coke originates from them being bombarded with the commercials showing Pepsi defeating them left-and-right in taste tests and evidence that the younger demographics were choosing Pepsi by-and-large.

Oh and the Coke people sort of ignored that the sipping taste tests favored the higher sweetness of Pepsi while many people enjoyed Coke better when drinking a whole bottle of it simply because it wasn't so massively sweet.

In the end, it really was just them making a stupid decision.

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Tom Petrov
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quote: Monte L Fullmer
with the right brix mix.
I will agree...Coke from a well brixed tower is pretty damn good....but it must have the ice.

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Pravin Ratnam
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I think this HFCS crap is infecting the whole world. When I visited India and Thailand recently, I tasted the coke there. And i remember checking the ingredients. I think they use HFCS too.

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Joe Redifer
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Damn you, corn industry and your control over everything!

quote: Chris Slycord
New Coke was formulated as taking the mixture for Diet Coke and replacing the aspartame with HFCS.
You need to prove this since you have presented it as fact here. I don't need to prove my statement since I said "From what I have read".

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Edward Havens
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The Snopes page for New Coke confirms Chris's statement. It also confirms Coke switched from 100% cane sugar to a 50/50 cane sugar/HFCS sweetener mix for American Coca-Cola five years before the introduction of New Coke, and the switch to 100% HFCS in American Coca-Cola happened before the introduction of New Coke.

http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/newcoke.asp

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Stephen Furley
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I don't like cola, so never drink it. I do sometimes drink sparkling orange or apple drinks and 'cloudy' lemonade, i.e. the type which actually contains some lemon juice rather than just water, acid, sweetener and gas.

I find the best lemonade is Fentimans, followed by Ben Shaws and Barrs. All drinks sweetened with sugar, either added or just what comes from the fruit taste better than those which use other sweeteners to me, but I have to be careful about drinking it.

Fentimans is available, though not widely, in the US; I don't know about Barrs and Ben Shaws.

Fentimans

Ben Shaws

Barrs

I did notice recently that in one of these, I think it was Barrs, the ingredients were slightly different in cans and bottles; I don't know why.

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Keri Delio
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I only drink soda occasionally (can't handle caffiene) & when I do I drink it sweetened with cane sugar only.
Anyone else here a fan of the Dr. Pepper in bottles from Dublin, Tx sweetened with cane sugar? It tastes great!

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Jim Cassedy
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You can buy individual bottles at many Mexican restaurants &
taco trucks here in California, but I've been buying this stuff
by the case from a local beverage distributor for years.

But they don't display or advertise it in any way in their store.
They have it hidden in a back room and you have to ask for it,
and you have to pay cash. It's almost like a drug deal!

I' ve been told that it's because selling Mexi-coke in the US
technically violates some part of their distributorship
contract with the Coca Cola company.

Albert-The-Cat, Carefully
Guarding My Mexican Coke Stash
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Also, I've found you can get Chinese Coca-Cola here in
Chinatown. These cans are not 'bottled' here in the US,
they're actually imported from both Taiwan & Hong Kong.
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I'm not sure if the China-Coke is made with cane sugar or
HFCS, since the ingredients are listed in Chinese. They
taste like the Mexi-coke, with MSG added. [Roll Eyes]
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My favorite soda, however, is STEWART's "Old Fashioned
Cream Soda", which is only available in glass bottles.

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Chris Slycord
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And on sodas from Mexico, Jarritos makes a lot of delicious sodas. I've liked the tamarind, orange, fruit punch, and grapefuit flavors although I didn't care as much for the hibiscus-flavored one that they called "Jamaica." I think they have more varieties that the store across from my place didn't carry.

The tamarind one is especially awesome. Perfect combo of sweet and sour.

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Sam Graham
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In my Alaskan childhood (early teens), some of the kids used to catch salmon and take it down to the Japanese lumber ships at the spruce mill and trade the crew members for Japanese Coca-Cola (long skinny cans) and Japanese cigarettes.

It was an easy way to fund their vices.

quote: Chris Slycord
I didn't care as much for the hibiscus-flavored one that they called "Jamaica."
I love Jamaica-flavored Kool-Aid.

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Ed Alvarado
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its funny how this makes me laugh because i live in Texas and i went to a small burger shack and they actually have on the menu MEXICAN COKE. and at first i couldn't hold it in because i thought of it as if they were calling it a drug but then it hits me that they meant the drink. sorry i just thought this was funny but anyways its true the bottled drinks do have a better taste and the Peps drinks from MEXICO!! are soo sweet and yummy. but the price is rather high but its worth it i mean i pay $5 alone for a freaking frappachino so why not $2.75 for a bottle Pepsi drink. oh and its even better when purchasing an expensive soda with over priced taco's at a unknown sanitary taco van for late night munchies.

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Aaron Sisemore
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Pepsi has its own sugar-sweetened variety both in "Pepsi Throwback" which doesn't seem to be going away anytime soon (despite being labeled by Pepsi as a "limited time" thing)
Pepsi and Dew Throwback as well as Sierra Mist Natural are no longer 'Limited Time' items and are a permanent part of the Pepsi product line. Unfortunately none of them will be going to fountains (I asked about it at CinemaCon) [Frown]

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Steve Guttag
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Though I'm not much of a soda drinker anymore...I can attest...Mountain Dew - Throwback has the taste of Mountain-Dew of my youth and it is far superior to the standard flavor of today.

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