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Robert E. Allen
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From: Checotah, Oklahoma
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posted 08-20-2011 12:17 PM

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Threads like this make me glad I still have an old dumb phone, as opposed to a smart phone. I'll take the plunge someday and then I can come back here and gripe too! [Big Grin]

I'm with you Mike. I got a mobile phone so I could make and take phone calls. While my phone will do text and take pictures I never use those features and have no plans for ever getting a smart phone. I don't play games, I have satellite TV and internet none of which I need while I'm on the move. I have had Verizon for six years and have used it all over the Pacific Northwest and everywhere between there and Iowa with excellent reception and signal quality everywhere. I don't think there is really any need for anyone to pay bills, play games or do text while on the move. Wireless phones have had a bad enough impact on our social skills without turning over our entire lives to them.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 08-20-2011 07:05 PM

quote: Brad Miller
Let me rephrase. It doesn't count against your minutes. So if you call someone on another carrier at 1pm Wednesday afternoon, it is as if you are calling them at night or on the weekends...no use of minutes in the plan.

Then why are there any minutes at all on Verizon plans? Mine is 700 minutes.

The Verizon store person who sold me the plan said that only Verizon-to-Verizon minutes were "free". Verizon-to-Verizon texts are free, but only if you have a text plan (which is super-lame).

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Brad Miller
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posted 08-20-2011 07:26 PM

Maybe your salesman doesn't know what he is talking about???

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Monte L Fullmer
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posted 08-20-2011 07:47 PM

quote: Jeff Kane
...Check out Page Plus cellular. They use the Verizon network but have much friendlier policies and better plans.

I checked into this which is true for having good plans, but I can see why they do have good plans since their phones are units that were models mainly that came out 2 to 4 years ago - like they got a hold of some units that were part of a liquidation sale, or what stores couldn't sell.

For example: with my former employer, I was issued a Samsung Alias II, which was a new phone for the spring of 2009 to replace the original Alias of the previous two years. Page Plus sells the original Alias (new in the box) for 80 bucks. Not saying that's bad, but wonder on firmware or update issues.

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Chris Slycord
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posted 08-20-2011 08:01 PM

quote: Joe Redifer
Then why are there any minutes at all on Verizon plans?

Because they assume most mobile calls are to land-lines regardless of a "free mobile-to-mobile" enticement?

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Leo Enticknap
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posted 08-20-2011 09:50 PM

quote: Stephen Furley
The battery life is poor, mine will just about do a working day on standby without being used for calls, and the battery now in it is less than a year old.

I find that the battery life on mine depends a lot on signal strength. My home is a flat in a very old building (built 1635-38) with walls that are literally around 2-3 feet thick. Even though it's very close to the city centre of York, I get one bar of signal strength maximum in the flat, and without making any calls my Blackberry will get an absolute maximum of about 36 hous from a full charge to a low battery warning. However, when I'm anywhere else with a better signal strength, it'll go for 2-3 days easily.

Agreed about the trackballs, though they are very cheap and relatively easy to replace (replacement kits are around a fiver on Ebay). I had to do that with my last BB, though this one has a solid state version that you just rub your finger across.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 08-21-2011 02:43 AM

quote: Brad Miller
Maybe your salesman doesn't know what he is talking about???

It was a black woman. Clearly you are racist/sexist.

quote: Chris Slycord
Because they assume most mobile calls are to land-lines regardless of a "free mobile-to-mobile" enticement?

People still have land lines? I guess businesses do, but usually calls to businesses don't eat up a large chunk of time.

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Chris Slycord
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posted 08-21-2011 03:43 AM

quote: Joe Redifer
People still have land lines? I guess businesses do, but usually calls to businesses don't eat up a large chunk of time.

Most people aren't you. Most of them still have land lines. And not only that, but in addition to businesses there'd be schools which definitely are run pretty exclusively from land lines. Most people with cell phones either have kids who go to schools or go to one themselves. [Smile]

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Brad Miller
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posted 08-21-2011 11:52 AM

Most people here have had to call in for KDMs and such, hence the "unlimited minutes" plan. [Razz]

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Leo Enticknap
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posted 08-21-2011 12:20 PM

quote: Chris Slycord
Most of them still have land lines.

That seems to be changing quite quickly though, at least in this neck of the woods. There are now 4-5 people I call regularly who do not have landlines in their homes, and several more who only have landlines because they need one to get ADSL internet, and don't even have a voice phone plugged into them.

I know this is probably a Europe-specific thing, but my problem with this is that it it's a cheap solution for the householder, but puts a lot of extra cost on anybody who wants to contact them. Here, the entire cost of calling a cellphone is borne by the person originating the call: from a UK landline, this can be up to the equivalent of 80-90 cents a minute during weekday working hours, while the owner of the cellphone you're calling pays nothing. Of course some landline contracts have inclusive deals that makes it a lot cheaper to call cellphones, and it's usually free to call between contract cellphones on the same network (a pernicious marketing device, of course, as it encourages whole extended families to go with the same provider). But even so, the costs can add up.

quote: Chris Slycord
And not only that, but in addition to businesses there'd be schools which definitely are run pretty exclusively from land lines.

The phone bill of the university I work for got so bad a few years ago that they introduced a rule requiring students to provide a landline number that they could be contacted on, because virtually no shared students' houses have landlines in them and so they'd give their cell numbers on all the official forms. It didn't work, of course - they would just put their parents' number, and when you rang it you'd get Mummy or Daddy reading out their cell number and telling you to call that; and so they admitted defeat and dropped that rule. But the size of the bill must have been significant for them to want to try it in the first place.

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Mike Blakesley
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posted 08-21-2011 01:59 PM

"Need to call 9-1-1........ohh, this phone is a prop, it doesn't work!"

Life is again imitating art. [Smile]

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Joe Redifer
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posted 08-21-2011 03:37 PM

quote: Chris Slycord
Most of them still have land lines.

Sounds like most people are pretty stupid. There's really no reason any more for an individual to have one if they also have a cell.

quote: Brad Miller
Most people here have had to call in for KDMs and such

That is 100% the theater's responsibility, no one should be required to use their own phone.

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Jonathan Althaus
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posted 08-21-2011 04:30 PM

But it's much easier to make calls on a cell. Running back and forth from a phone in the office to the other end of the booth where an incident is occuring is time consuming and a royal pain. And that's when the office isn't occupied by other mgrs doing absolutely nothing

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Dominic Espinosa
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posted 08-21-2011 04:31 PM

I give a Google Voice # as a "land-line". Heh.

Monte, I did call Blackberry who didn't understand what I was asking and sent me to their "upgrade" department where you get $25-$50 for trading in an old, working, phone.

At this point my boss is livid with them; their website advertises good reviews for the phone and that was what our business manager made the decision based on. However real customers don't like the phone so much for reliability issues.

Either way I'm going to send the remains back to Verizon in a million pieces for my warranty exchange. Just to see if they'll do it.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 08-21-2011 06:33 PM

Jonathan, it is still 100% the responsibility of the theater. Maybe they could give the booth a cordless phone or some shit like that. Also, I wasn't aware that KDMs were "incidents".

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