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Topic: Steve Jobs, 1955-2011
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Dustin Mitchell
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From: Mondovi, WI, USA
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posted 10-06-2011 01:57 PM
Once again, The Onion nails it
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CUPERTINO, CA—Steve Jobs, the visionary co-founder of Apple Computers and the only American in the country who had any clue what the fuck he was doing, died Wednesday at the age of 56. "We haven't just lost a great innovator, leader, and businessman, we've literally lost the only person in this country who actually had his shit together and knew what the hell was going on," a statement from President Barack Obama read in part, adding that Jobs will be remembered both for the life-changing products he created and for the fact that he was able to sit down, think clearly, and execute his ideas—attributes he shared with no other U.S. citizen. "This is a dark time for our country, because the reality is none of the 300 million or so Americans who remain can actually get anything done or make things happen. Those days are over." Obama added that if anyone could fill the void left by Jobs it would probably be himself, but said that at this point he honestly doesn’t have the slightest notion what he’s doing anymore.
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Bobby Henderson
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posted 10-06-2011 04:22 PM
Did the US Congress pass an amendment to the Constitution declaring it against the law to say anything less than 100% ass-kissing praise when it concerns Steve Jobs and Apple computer?
Yes, I think it's sad Steve Jobs died. I wouldn't wish pancreatic cancer on my worst enemy. The computer industry on the whole will suffer without the guy.
However, the epidemic level of Jobs worship presently on display really ought to be put into proper perspective. The dude isn't God. And he sure as hell isn't the only computer industry person to come up with a good idea, or even the only Apple computer employee to come up with a good idea. Does the name Jean-Louis Gassée ring a bell with any of them? The press (the vast majority of which are Apple users) give Jobs the credit for everything. That isn't right.
quote: Mark Ogden
No one reading this will achieve even 1/1000th of his success, or bring about the technological or social change that he and his company did.
Nice angry sounding insult there. Yes, every person including you, Mark has a meaningless, insignificant, life wasting job of no consequence. We all need to hang our heads in bitter defeat go home and hang ourselves in a hall closet for being something other than Steve Jobs.
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I agree The Onion truly nailed it.
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Aaron Garman
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posted 10-06-2011 05:14 PM
I'll keep it simple, and up front say that Steve Jobs has been one of my biggest inspirations.
-The media is over doing it.
-Love him or hate him, he was extremely significant in the tech world and generally popular with many normal people too.
-The Onion nailed it.
-I think the comparison to Edison is valid: both men are kind of larger than life and have inspired many many people. A hundred years from now, people will still remember and be talking about Steve Jobs.
-America has lost a great CEO, innovator, and visionary leader. There are many companies that it would behoove to follow some of his examples. All one needs to do to realize that is look at what Steve Balmer has done to Microsoft.
There's a great article in the Washington Post today that really summed it up best:
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Steve Jobs and the idea of letting go
By Hank Stuever, Published: October 5
Remember a few years ago, when your Apple store on any given Saturday afternoon ceased being the clean, technological zendo you once admired — the place you bought your iMac — and instead became a crowded bazaar of idealized wonder and hopeless waits at the Genius Bar?
The movement spread. People built their lives around the objects Steve Jobs gave them: the MacBook, the iPod, the iPhone, the iPad. What happened with Jobs and Apple over the past decade is one of the rare participatory phenomena of our disconnected and no-longer-common culture. It was as if this generation’s defining event took place in a shopping plaza and then up in the “cloud,” and this time everyone (that is, everyone who could afford Apple products) got to go to Woodstock.
People stopped lining up for concert tickets and started lining up for new phones. This was the future right in front of you. It was sleek, responding to your touch. Imagine explaining an iPad to someone from 1984. They might get it, they might not.
Jobs died Wednesday at age 56 after a long battle with pancreatic cancer that his wasting form came to wear as familiarly as his preference for outdated jeans and black turtlenecks. When news of his death broke around 7:30 p.m. on the East Coast, a good number of us sought immediate solace (to say nothing of information) from our Apple stuff. The rippling tweets and shares fanned outward.
Swipe, swipe, touch. The nighttime news anchors, fearful of the obsolescence that dogs them at every turn, turned to social-media feeds for confirmation of a shared sense of loss; they invited hipster tech writers and thinkers who scorn old-media ways to make themselves available to grieve analytically on the air. (The digital air, that is; in Jobs’s world, we sacrificed the broadcast band to the broadband.) You can easily imagine newspaper assignment desks, similarly afflicted with professional hypochondria, scrambling reporters to Apple stores to gather quotes from the bereaved.
That is what Steve Jobs gave us: the future. A sense of ourselves moving forward into this century, which has proved especially hard to do, with its lack of employment opportunities and its addiction to panic. He gave us a look at the future and all the ambivalence and worry that comes with it. It was the most elegant form of social disruption, and now your kids won’t glance up from their iPhones. They’ll never need to.
We spend a lot of time wishing for the past, carping about our gizmos and the sway they lord over us, while loading up our iPods with songs that were popular when we were in high school, while stalking old boyfriends on Facebook. That in itself is a pleasant form of grief, but it is grief all the same.
Jobs kept nudging us away from that. Under his leadership, Apple’s subliminal selling point was: Let it go. Let go of the uneasiness about computers. Let go of ugly, antique technology. Let go of the fantasy future of personal rocketships. Let go of the expensive, shiny new phone that you bought last year for the slightly less expensive, shiny new phone that’s coming out this year. But let go of something deeper, something resistant in you that romanticizes the past.
In 2011, so much of our culture — as well as our politics — feels as though we’re losing grip on the old, beloved things. Where did record stores go? What happened to letters that come in the mail? Where did movie theaters go? What about the books? Where is my Main Street? Where is my America?
Jobs had been teaching us to say goodbye to all that for decades — we just didn’t know it. Some of us said goodbye to typewriters in the 1980s when we finished term papers using MacWrite on a Macintosh Plus for the first time. Some of us said goodbye when we made PTA fliers and “Lost Dog” posters that were far and away better than their Sharpie-scrawled predecessors. Let it go, let it go: Take your CDs to Goodwill; give your books to the library sale.
It was therefore an irresistible metaphor, in these final years, when the auditorium lights would go down and the crowd would go wild for Jobs, who increasingly greeted his followers and touted the latest neat, new thing even as he wore the look of a person who was not going into that future with us. He would be getting off here; we were to proceed without him into the unknown. Let it go and look ahead was the message all along.
AJG
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Justin Hamaker
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From: Lakeport, CA USA
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posted 10-08-2011 08:08 PM
Mike, I'm not trying to say Steve Jobs or iTunes saved the music industry. What I'm saying is the music industry made a huge mistake by not recognizing consumer demand for digital music, and creating the market, around the time they were going after Napster. Instead, they tried to hang on to what they had as if it was the only workable model. And then they further screwed up by suing regular people for "damages" from downloading.
Had the music industry been more proactive, they would have recognized the new market and exploited it at a time when the average music consumer still didn't know about "free" music from Napster. In fact, they could have even used Napster's users to develop the market.
Whether this would have changes anything about the attitude of today's consumer may be debatable, but the music industry should have been on the leading edge of digital music rather than trying to keep it from happening.
And this is where Steve Jobs really deserves the credit for his contribution to the music industry. He recognized a huge opportunity to seize, and develop, an emerging market which was being ignored.
For better or worse, Jobs changed the way music is distributed and purchased. He also created a viable way for independent artists to get their music to market without using a label.
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