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Jim Cassedy
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For some reason, I've lost my ABC-TV progamming here in San Francisco too
last week. Odd, since I get everything "off air", and the RF signal levels
on all my other channels are exactly where they've always been.
(and everything comes off of the same transmitting tower- and I have a
direct, line-of sight to it) I tried re-scanning both my TV's, & still no ABC.

I don't really miss it. A visual inspection of my antenna set up doesn't show
any obvious problems. Very Odd, but I'm not loosing sleep over it.

ACTUAL PHOTO (WoW!)OF MY ANTENNA
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The tower is about 3mi away. I could probably stick a
coat-hanger on a piece of coax & get a decent signal.

I dropped my cable several years ago, since I'm way too busy to watch much TV.
Best decision I ever made. I didn't realize what a time (and money) waster it was.

If I did decide to go back to pay TV, I'd go with satellite, since almost all my
freinds who have it say it's better in both quality & customer service than the
local cable provider. (Comcast)

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Kenneth Wuepper
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Jim,

That picture illustrates the term "line of Sight!" [Big Grin]

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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Both my sister and I have been very happy with Time Warner 's Oceanic Cable . At one time we used to get the full package including HBO, Showtime, and other premium movie channels as well as the standard stuff like Discovery Channel, ESPN, CNN, CNBC, FOX and Turner Classic Movies but we dropped all the premium movie channels and have never missed them. In addition to Cable TV, I also subscribe to Time Waner's Road Runner high speed Internet service and I am very happy with it. As I had mentioned, I rarely watch cable TV programs but my sister does and she enjoys Oceanic Cable's service. I guess ABC being down is not troubling her because she has not said anything about it.

-Claude

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Jesse Skeen
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I love it when I get a call trying to get me to subscribe to satellite TV, or when one of those DirecTV guys approaches me at Best Buy. I always tell them that if they can find ONE channel that I would actually want to watch and found worth paying for, I would sign up right away. They never can find anything- One time someone showed me the program guide and I picked one thing that looked interesting, but when they changed the channel to it there was a commercial break! I told them I don't pay to watch commercials.

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Scott Norwood
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Semi-related Q: does C-band satellite still exist in any form that is usable by the consumer? Or did digital broadcasts and scrambled signals kill it? I always thought it would be interesting to be able to watch network feeds and other material that is unavailable (at any price) on cable or small-dish systems, but I assume that much of that stuff is no longer transmitted in the same way as it was in the 1980s and 1990s.

I don't watch much TV, personally, and I am totally happy with over-the-air SD broadcasts. I had terrible analog reception in my apartment, and digital was a huge improvement (much to my surprise). I am cheap and would not pay for TV just for myself. At about $50/month, given how little I would watch, it is just not worthwhile, although it becomes much easier to justify the cost for a larger family.

Earlier this year, there was an antenna problem in this market that took out four stations (CBS, ABC, the smaller of two PBS stations, and an independent) for a few days. For a while (and possibly still), these stations were broadcasting with a temporary setup at reduced power.

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Rick Raskin
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Claude: I applaud Time Warner for their position. As you know any rate increase for programming would ultimately be recovered from the subscriber base. A 300% increase by the content provider stinks of greed.

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Bobby Henderson
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It's typical media company greed. They try to ram all sorts of rate increases through the service providers, be it cable or satellite. They don't really care about the position of cable or satellite providers having to either pass along those rate increases to customers or let the increases eat away their own bottom line. The media companies are only concerned with the wants of share holders. They don't care that the economy is still struggling and many Americans have their finances stretched very thin. They're not concerned about how much "churn" (lost customers) will affect the service providers when they try to pass along the rate hikes. It's just obnoxious, arrogant stupidity.

I have been strongly considering ditching my pay TV subscription for a variety of reasons.

On the personal side, I spend a lot of time working out and doing other things. So there's not a whole lot of spare time to spend watching TV. I just had another short-term relationship fizzle; while things were good I was spending quite a few evenings at her place. With the pattern I'm currently in I'll probably be doing the same shit with a different woman in a matter of weeks. When I do have spare time to watch TV I would probably be better off using that time for more constructive purposes, like doing things to fix up my home. The $75 per month I'm currently paying for Dish Network might help a little with those home improvement costs.

A lot of TV programming has really gone to shit. I have a decent outdoor antenna and can pick up half a dozen OTA HD channels. But so much of OTA network programming is filled with reality show crap, American Idol and its copycats as well as other things I just don't find very interesting. I have HBO, primarily for their original TV series shows. The Newsroom and Game of Thrones are pretty good. True Blood is kind of getting old. I'm not really into the other shows. Given what a season box set costs it would be cheaper just buying or renting that way; the only downside is the extra 1 year wait before it is released on Blu-ray.

I don't watch any of the cable news channels because I think CNN, MSNBC, Headline News and Fox News are all garbage. They've dumbed down their content for the mouth-breathers and run too many stories filled with opinion and half-truths making it a waste of time to watch. It's not news. It's infotainment.

I used to like the Discovery Channel, History Channel, National Geographic Channel etc. but too much of their air time is now wasted on reality show stuff and other trash content. I don't really feel like seeing another show following biker gangs or thugs in prison. That stuff is depressing. What happened to all the nature stuff which showed off the beauty in this world?

MTV and VH1 need to change their names to something else that doesn't involve music. They're not "Music Television" and "Video Hits 1" anymore. Something like "SA" and "SV" would be more appropriate (they stand for Snooki's Asshole and Snooki's Vagina).

It's probably a good sign I just need to ditch pay TV when I find myself leaving the TV set on The Weather Channel for an hour or two before realizing it.

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Randy Stankey
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quote: Bobby Henderson
It's probably a good sign I just need to ditch pay TV when I find myself leaving the TV set on The Weather Channel for an hour or two before realizing it.
Dump it. I can't understand why people think they "need" to have cable TV like it's a necessity.

Electricity, water, sewer and gas are necessities. Cable TV is a luxury and it's not a very good one, at that.

I think it's weird how people think they can't live without it. It'd downright creepy, sometimes, how people live their lives literally GLUED to a video screen.

You'd be better off, financially and just in general, if you dumped cable TV and went with OTA.

Besides, it's wrong to pay for TV that's also subsidized by advertising revenue.

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Mitchell Dvoskin
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> C-band satellite still exist in any form that is usable by the consumer?

Yes, and while there are a lot of free channels, most of what you want to watch, including the network feeds, are scrambled. You would need to buy a descrambler and pay a monthly fee. Individual network stations may be available non-scrambled.

Google "c band satellite channels" for more info.

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