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Author Topic: How long will Fallon last? Sam D. Chavez Film God Posts: 2153 From: Martinez, CA USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 02-04-2014 11:05 PM                       Well played for sure. I was referring to Ferguson of course.  |  IP: Logged Sam Graham AKA: "The Evil Sam Graham". Wackiness ensues. Posts: 1431 From: Waukee, IA Registered: Dec 2004 posted 02-05-2014 12:28 PM                        However long he lasts, I predict he will be the final host of "The Tonight Show". That NBC will give it up in the end due to cost vs ratings. Having said that, I don't have a problem with the guy and hope he does okay. I've never been a fan of Leno's "Tonight Show" at all. I like Letterman enough, I guess, but hardly ever watch until the musical guest comes on because I most often end up watching Perry Mason on MeTV at 10:30 (Central), then flip over to watch Ferguson, and there's aeven-minute window between the shows. Ferguson may be as predictable as an episode of "Wheel of Fortune", but he still cracks me up.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-05-2014 12:35 PM                        I don't think "Tonight" or any of the late night shows will be going away very soon or ever. Even in today's fractured TV landscape "Tonight" still makes something like $40 million a year for NBC. They make good money on these shows because they are cheap to produce and have loyal viewers. The big reason Jay is being eased out now is because his audience is aging. And, so is Fallon's audience....they're getting to the age where they won't stay up so late anymore. So it makes sense to move him up an hour. I love watching Craig Ferguson's show. He's sort of an acquired taste, but once you can understand his manic accent and buy into the fact that he completely doesn't give a crap about the standard talk-show rituals, he gives a very good interview.  |  IP: Logged Sam D. Chavez Film God Posts: 2153 From: Martinez, CA USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 02-05-2014 02:48 PM                       Some of Ferguson's real improv vs. scripted improv is just brilliant and oh so quick. Awkward pause is always fun. I watch mostly in the morning being part of that demographic that can't quite make it that late anymore.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-26-2014 09:28 PM                        Well guys, Fallon's been on a week and a half, any opinions? He's basically doing almost the exact same show as before, with a different name and a better looking studio. I think that could be a mistake. Letterman, when he moved up to the 11:30 time slot, classed up his presentation, increased the band size, and of course having the Ed Sullivan Theater and its surrounding neighborhood gave him a wealth of comedy opportunities. One thing I've really noticed...on the early Carson version of the Tonight Show, you never really got a sense of the size of the studio. It seemed big on TV. People who saw the show in person would always say that the studio was MUCH smaller than it looked on TV. With the Fallon show, which is being videotaped in the same studio as Carson's show was in the New York days, they use so many long shots from the upper corners of the room that it's obvious that the show is being shot in a relatively small space. It sort of emphasizes it, and takes away a bit of the mystique of the show (for me at least). Anyway, it's an enjoyable program and well-done, but Fallon literally just moved across the hall, and it shows.  |  IP: Logged Mark Ogden Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 943 From: Little Falls, N.J. Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-27-2014 09:35 AM                     Fallon's Tonight Show comes out of NBC 6B, which is 126'x50' and their second largest stage after 8H. All of the NBC Rockefeller Center studios are all originally radio studios, and are all a little on the smallish side for TV. That's why The Sound of Music Live! came out of a re-purposed aircraft assembly hangar on Long Island. No way to find room for it at 30 Rock.  |  IP: Logged Mike Heenan Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1896 From: Scottsdale, AZ, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 03-02-2014 04:15 PM                     I read that Fallon's ratings have gone down already, which is to be expected. I remember seeing Conan OBrien taped live when he was in NY and that studio was ultra small, unbelievable.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-02-2014 04:40 PM                        quote: Mark Ogden All of the NBC Rockefeller Center studios are all originally radio studios This made me think of a question.....what was it like to be in the audience at a taping of a radio comedy show, such as "The Jack Benny Program?" I've seen pictures of the Benny cast taping shows, and it looks like they were just standing at microphones reading out of the scripts, even though they had live audiences. Was that really what the audience saw -- just the stars reading out of the scripts? Or did they do ANYTHING to make it look like the situation being protrayed for the live audience? Did the guest stars just "walk on" (cuing the applause) at the appropriate time and then "walk off" when their segment was over?  |  IP: Logged

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