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Rick Raskin
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quote: Frank Cox
The transponder can apparently interfere with radios/radars/whatever when the plane is parked at an airport.
I think that would be a relatively easy thing to overcome. IMHO, No way should the crew be able to defeat the transponder in flight.

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Frank Cox
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Why do planes even have an off switch for crucial device?
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WASHINGTON — Ever since Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 disappeared, a fascinated public has asked: Why can somebody in the cockpit shut off the transponder?

It turns out there are several legitimate reasons why a pilot might want to shut off this key form of communication that allows air traffic controllers to identify and track airplanes.

Authorities believe that Flight 370′s transponder was intentionally shut off, delaying search and rescue efforts and helping to conceal the plane’s location – a mystery unsolved more than 10 days after the Boeing 777 vanished.

It’s rare for a pilot to turn off a transponder during flight, but occasionally there is cause.

- Sometimes a transponder malfunctions, giving out incorrect readings.

- The device could have an electrical short or catch on fire. Pilots would want to shut it down rather than risk a fire spreading to the rest of the cockpit or airplane.

- Pilots used to routinely turn off transponders on the ground at airports so as not to overwhelm air traffic controllers with so many signals in one location. That is increasingly less the case as pilots now use “moving map” displays that take the transponder data and show them the location of other planes on the ground, helping guide them around airports without mishaps.

“As long as there are pilots, they’ll be able to switch off systems,” said Andrew Thomas, editor-in-chief of the Journal of Transportation Security.

Airplanes have two transponders. There are two knobs in the cockpit – one on the right, the other on the left – that control one or the other. When one transponder is on, the other is normally in standby mode.

To turn off a transponder, a pilot turns a knob with multiple positions and selects the “off” setting. The second transponder doesn’t automatically activate if the first one is shut down – a knob would also have to be turned. In this case, it appears one transponder was turned off, and the second not activated.

Ross Aimer, a retired United Airlines pilot and former 777 instructor, said it is possible that one pilot could reach up and turn off the transponder without the other pilot seeing it, say if one was looking away or distracted.

If the plane was in contact with an air traffic controller, the controller would alert the pilots that the transponder signal had been lost. But, Aimer – now head of Aero Consulting Experts – said, if they were not in contact with an air traffic controller, a pilot might miss it if the other shut down the transponder.

In the case of the missing Malaysian plane, even pilots are a bit puzzled by somebody turning off the transponder.

John Gadzinski, a Boeing 737 captain, said that among fellow pilots “there is a raised eyebrow like Spock on `Star Trek’ – you just sit there and go, `why would anybody do that?’”


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Leo Enticknap
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quote: Frank Cox
The transponder can apparently interfere with radios/radars/whatever when the plane is parked at an airport.
I read one article (sorry - in the blizzard of them following the MH370 disappearance, I can't remember or provide a link to the exact one) which said that another reason is that when an airliner is overflying very busy airspace, e.g. the approach and departure paths around a big airport, controllers will sometimes ask its pilot to switch off their squawk until they're clear of the area, to de-clutter their screens and make it easier for them to concentrate on taking care of the flights they're vectoring in and out.

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Edward Havens
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I'm surprised there's been very little mention of Lost and the Dharma Initiative in conjunction with this.

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Jim Cassedy
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You HAD to know this headline was coming sooner or later:
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Leo Enticknap
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According to the same paper, the moon is a veritable aircraft junkyard - there's already a WWII bomber there, apparently. Oh, and Elvis Presley is alive and well, and living on Mars. Maybe that's why those Dutch people want to go there - to get his autograph.

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Paul Mayer
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Heh heh, love the photo - somehow a missing 2-engined B-777-200 became a 4-engined something (proly an A-340-600). Love the yellow press...; [Smile]

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Marcel Birgelen
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quote: Edward Havens
I'm surprised there's been very little mention of Lost and the Dharma Initiative in conjunction with this.
... or The Langoliers.
... or Non-Stop.

And all those other movies/series/books/stories about planes. [Wink]

I'm actually pretty sure there will be an actual movie about or inspired by this whole incident in a year or 5.

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