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Author Topic: First In Flight Movie Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-23-2014 11:12 AM                        Airlines used to GIVE you cigarettes with the meal. I remember getting them in the 60's. It would be a 3 cig pack of some national brand. Probably tried my first cigarette out of one of those packs I put in my pocket and hid for a few months. Thankfully, never took up smoking.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-23-2014 03:18 PM                        It's pretty amazing how attitudes have changed toward smoking. I had a buddy who was in the military a long time ago, who told me that he had started smoking because the guys who smoked got "smoke breaks" and the non-smokers didn't. I am amazed that any young people start smoking today, but a lot do, especially women. I don't get their rationale for it.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 06-23-2014 08:59 PM                        Veering OT, but WTH... I get the impression that it's both a generational and a locational thing. Growing up in 1970s and '80s London, most of my parents' generation (including both my parents) smoked, but most of mine didn't - we were subjected to constant anti-smoking propaganda and it worked. I still vividly remember being shown this 16mm educational movie in high school, and making gross jokes about it afterwards. When I was a teenager, smoking was perceived to be something that was done by morons attempting to look cool. When I was a university student, smokers were in a tiny minority. I can think of only one close friend I ever had in England who smoked, and she stopped in her late 20s. My aunt and uncle gave up after probably over 50 years of smoking. Yet the generation that came after mine appears to be smoking in greater numbers. I haven't seen any cigarette sales figures or anything to back it up, but my unscientific observation seems to be that smoking is on the increase in Britain, especially among people in their 20s. However, since moving to Southern California last summer, I haven't met a single smoker, or even seen anyone smoking. Nor have I ever seen anyone buy cigarettes at the very few places that sell them (e.g. my local Staters). I suppose that part of it could be that I live in a town where around 80% of the population are Seventh-day Adventists (i.e. health nuts - the religion encourages vegetarianism and lots of exercise, and even discourages caffeine, let alone tobacco and alcohol!) - but I now work in LA and can't remember ever seeing anyone smoke there, either. I'm guessing that it boils down to the US just being ahead of Europe in the process of tobacco smoking becoming a thing of the past, but for some reason the UK at least seems to be going backwards.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 06-23-2014 10:15 PM                        Doesn't everyone in Britain and Japan smoke? As far as I know, it's mandatory in those places. I think one generation smokes and then the younger generation comes in and wants to be different and cool, so they DON'T smoke. Then that generation's offspring wants to be different and cool so they start smoking. It's basically all about differentiating yourselves from the old people because you are much too cool for whatever nonsense they did and by god you know better! I mean you're a teenager! There is nothing at all that you don't know.  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 06-23-2014 10:35 PM                        Even in Japan, smoking is generally going out with the old folks. Nowadays there are no-smoking sections on the train platforms to go along with the non-smoking cars. Japanese major air carriers like JAL and ANA were the last to ban smoking on overseas flights, citing the long flight times as justifying the need for some smoking allowances. But even those long trans-Pacific flights are all non-smoking now. Smoking is still allowed in Japanese offices, but as the old generation dies off, or retires, or gets "restructured" out of their jobs, "no smoking" office policies are becoming more commonplace. Some places in the US are still smoker's paradises - Nevada, with its casinos will always allow smoking in the casino pits, even as some of them are experimenting with non-smoking gaming areas. And anyone of legal age can buy smokes at any supermarket, convenience store, or drug store. Smoking does seem to fit right in with drinking and gambling, so it will probably never completely die out in gaming establishments. Back on topic, there is Jerry Lewis' "Eddie's Airways" 1929 Ford Tri-Motor with 16mm in-flight movie entertainment... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1IW758UciaA  |  IP: Logged Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 06-25-2014 04:51 PM                     These days, at least in the UK, smokers seem to be either older people, probably retired, who have probably smoked for most of their lives, or teenagers. As far as the teenagers are concerned, it seems to be significantly more common among girls than boys. Both of my parents smoked very heavily. Father was born in 1912 and mother in 1915. Father had to stop in his '50s after illness not directly related, and mother gradually reduced, but I don't think ever completely stopped. Father gave me my first cigarette when I was, I think, eight. I thought it tasted absolutely disgusting. The following day I thought that it couldn't be as bad as I thought it was; after all, a large majority of people smoked, as they did then. I tried another one and it was just as bad, and I never smoked again other than a single clay pipefull for theatrical purposes about twenty five years ago. These days I find it difficult to breathe if anybody is smoking near me, but strangely, I don't remember being affected by it when both parents were smoking at home. Over the next couple of decades the older smokers will have pretty much all died, and the teenagers mostly don't seem to continue into adulthood so I suspect that the habit will die out fairly soon. In my childhood days there were two types of toy cigarettes, 'sweet' ones which were basically a rod of sugar with a bit of red food dye on one end, and one which was a paper tube with some sort of powder in it so that you could make 'smoke' by blowing through it. I remember having both when probably aged about five or six, but it would be unthinkable to give children these today. It was thought perfectly normal then.  |  IP: Logged Frank Cox Film God Posts: 2234 From: Melville Saskatchewan Canada Registered: Apr 2011 posted 06-25-2014 05:11 PM                        I sell these at my candy counter: They're reasonably popular with little kids and some adults buy them too, always saying "I haven't seen those in years" when they do. Note, however, that they are now Candy Sticks and no longer Candy Cigarettes. They no longer have the red colouring on the end of the stick, but the box hasn't changed much:  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 06-25-2014 05:42 PM                        quote: Stephen Furley These days I find it difficult to breathe if anybody is smoking near me, but strangely, I don't remember being affected by it when both parents were smoking at home. When you're around it all the time you're used to it so it becomes less noticeable. Once you're away from it for a significant amount of time your reaction to other people's smoke becomes much more unpleasant. I've never even tried smoking since I've never had any interest or curiosity about it at all even though my mom smoked (my dad had stopped when I was too young to remember). But then again I'm not really a follow-the-herd type of guy and don't take excessive pride in getting drunk, etc.  |  IP: Logged Steve Matz Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 672 From: Billings, Montana, USA Registered: Sep 2003 posted 06-26-2014 09:36 PM                     I got a quick lesson on not taking up smoking back when I was 13.My dad was in the coin operated Machine Business and we had JukeBoxes,Pinballs and even Cigarette Machines in Bars and eating establishments. I could have smoked for Free back then.A pack of Cigarettes in the mid 60's was 30 cents for non-filters like Camels and Pall Malls and Filtered Smokes were 35cents a pack. A Carton cost us 2 Dollars and you had to give the owner 15% of the payout. You never made any Money on Cigarette Machines, it was just a convienence you put in an establishment besides your Jukes and Pinballs. I use to have to go to these Bars each week and count the Money and also Clean these Machines. The First Time I sprayed some Windex on a Juke Box Front Glass and saw this Pure Black Substance(Nicotine) streaming down the Glass I knew that taking up smoking wasn't going to be for me.If this was secondhand smoke doing this to these Machines than what was it doing to someone's Lungs that was actually inhaling. My Dad smoked Camels and my Aunt smoked Pall Malls;probably the 2 worst Cigerettes you could smoke back then. My Aunt Died from Lung Cancer in 1976. I'm glad I was strong willed enough to not take up the Habit. A pack of Cigarettes in New York the last time I looked was almost 14 dollars a pack. If the Government keeps hiking the Tax on Cigarettes your going to see people who are addicted to smoking Robbing Convienence Stores and maybe Store Clerks getting Hurt or killed because of this. I also see People at the Nursing Home my Mother resides at carrying oxygen bottles around with them or on their Walkers/Wheelchairs. Of all the people needing oxygen I asked how many of you smoked growing up and over 90% said they were at the least a pack a day smoker. Your Lungs are very important to Life don't be a Fool and regret down the Line when you can't take a Full Deep Breath that you ever even considered Smoking  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 06-27-2014 01:45 AM                        quote: Steve Matz A pack of Cigarettes in New York the last time I looked was almost 14 dollars a pack. Interesting: here it's around $5-7, significantly less than in England at around the time I left last summer (about the same in pounds, so $10ish). The problem with trying to tax smoking out of existence (or any other activity you want to stop, for that matter), of course, is that you can only tax it so far before criminals can make enough of a margin on producing and/or smuggling the things for them to be able to undercut the legit prices, at which point (a) the government loses revenue to organized criminals, and (b) the "sin tax" is no longer dissuading sin, because it can easily be circumvented. And now we're in danger of getting political, so I'll stop there.  |  IP: Logged Steve Matz Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 672 From: Billings, Montana, USA Registered: Sep 2003 posted 06-27-2014 10:36 AM                     This is a List from 2013 so I'm sure New York's Prices are even higher this year. All this is doing is inviting Crime and Violence down the Line. I certainly wouldn't want to be the lone employee at midnight in a Convience Store when Cigarettes are over 14 dollars a Pack. Good Ole Government punishes the same people they help get addicted back in the 50's and 60's when smoking was popular on TV... Considerable Price Jump in every State when you could buy a Carton of Cigarettes in the early 70's for just over 3 dollars a Carton(10packs) Smokers, flee New York City and head to Kentucky, where a pack of Marlboro Reds will cost you practically a third of what you’re paying now. And while you’re on the road, steer clear of New Hampshire and Vermont, too: the price for a pack has jumped 35% and 25%, respectively, over the past year. We called a gas station—and oftentimes, when we were turned away or simply misunderstood, we called several—in the most populous city of every state in the nation and Washington D.C. and asked the clerk for the price of a pack of Marlboro Red cigarettes including tax. (Obviously, local prices will vary some.) Here’s the current 2013 price, in bold, and also how the prices of cigarettes have changed since last summer. 48. Kentucky (last year $6.56): $4.96 = -24% 47. North Dakota ($5.03): $5.04 = +.2% 46. West Virginia ($4.84): $5.07 = +5% 45. Oklahoma ($5.24): $5.19 = -.1% 44. Idaho ($5.11): $5.25 = +3% 43. Missouri ($5.87): $5.25 = -10% 42. Louisiana ($6.50): $5.33 = -18% 41. Oregon ($5.74): $5.35 = -7% 40. Wyoming ($5.21): $5.37 = +3% 39. Mississippi ($5.55): $5.45 = -2% 38. Nevada ($6.04): $5.50 = -9% 37. South Carolina ($6.25): $5.55 = -11% 36. Colorado ($5.19): $5.59 = +8% 35. Indiana ($5.56): $5.77 = +4% 34. Alabama ($5.18): $5.80 = +12% 33. Virginia ($5.43): $5.81 = +7% 32. Ohio ($5.67): $5.88 = 4% 31. Tennessee ($4.91): $5.89 = +20% 30. Georgia ($5.93): $5.93 = 0% 29. Minnesota ($5.96): $5.95 = -.2% 28. Florida ($6.29), Delaware ($6.10): $6.00 = -5%, -2% 27. North Carolina ($5.14): $6.03 = +17% 26. Nebraska ($5.99): $6.09 = +2% 25. Kansas ($6.47): $6.21 = -4% 24. Montana ($6.12): $6.25 = +2% 23. Arkansas ($7.10): $6.50 = -8% 22. New Hampshire ($4.86): $6.59 = +35% 21. Utah ($6.88): $6.64 = -3% 20. California ($6.45), South Dakota ($6.82): $6.77 = +5%, -.7% 19. New Mexico ($6.69): $6.91 = +3% 18. Michigan ($6.50), Pennsylvania ($6.93): $6.95 = +7%, +.3% 17. Maine ($6.97): $7.12 = +2% 16. Texas ($6.89): $7.24 = +5% 15. Iowa ($7.52): $7.25 = -4% 14. D.C. ($8.27): $7.89 = -5% 13. Maryland ($6.53): $7.93 = +21% 12. Wisconsin ($7.98): $8.11= +2% 11. Washington ($8.98): $8.31 = -7% 10. New Jersey ($8.00): $8.55 = +7% 9. Massachusetts ($8.49): $8.77 = +3% 8. Connecticut ($8.85): $9.30 = +5% 7. Vermont ($7.60): $9.52 = +25% 6. Rhode Island ($8.16): $9.56 = +17% 5. Alaska ($9.39): $9.59 = +2% 4. Arizona ($7.46): $9.65 = +29% 3. Hawaii ($10.22): $9.68 = -5% 2. Illinois ($10.25): $11.59 = +13% 1. New York ($12.50): $14.50 = +16%  |  IP: Logged

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