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Sean Weitzel
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From: Vacaville, CA (1790 miles west of Rockwall)
Registered: Dec 1999

posted 09-29-2014 11:23 AM

Steve Matz's old laptop probably also only has USB 1.1 ports which are DOG SLOW. Option 3 of slaving the drive and attaching it to a newer PC to copy the contents is a good way to go. Don't forget that Windows 98 was prior to the user profile structure of c:\documents and settings\username or just c:\users\username. The documents, pictures, downloads, etc folders are located in c:\windows.

Oh if you go option two and try to network it, keep in mind most modern PC's with gigabit ethernet can auto negotiate negating the need for a proper crossover cable. Any old patch cable will do but one will probably have to manually configure an IP scheme for the machines to see one another.

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Lyle Romer
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posted 09-29-2014 02:09 PM

quote: Bobby Henderson
It's probably going to take something more serious than the credit card data of several million people getting hacked for them to step up their game.

Unfortunately, you are right. What it is going to take is when health care records get hacked and TMZ leaks the names of people that are HIV+. Then all of a sudden it will be a national priority.

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Bobby Henderson
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From: Lawton, OK, USA
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posted 09-29-2014 07:34 PM

Considering the prejudices of those in power, I think a health care records hack to publicly expose anyone positive for HIV would result in some public moral hand wringing, saying "you shouldn't have been doing those immoral things to get HIV" and no actual efforts being made to catch the criminals responsible for the hack in the first place.

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Chris Slycord
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posted 09-30-2014 11:30 PM

quote: Steve Matz
Got a question here! My old Laptop had Windows 98 2nd Edition.I still haven't been able to find a Driver that will work properly to backup all the Photos,Files,etc. on a USB Flashdrive. I was thinking if I uploaded all this stuff(almost 2gigs) to one of those Free Storage Places on the Net and then DL it backdown to my present Laptop(windows 7) I would be home free...

1) On the old computer, go to http://www.freesshd.com/ and download freeFTPd.exe
2) Install it and make sure it says that the sftp server is running. Also, make sure that the directory/folder that your important files are in are included in the sftp server's path.
3) On the new computer, install winscp's sftp client (http://winscp.net/)
4) Run the client and have it access the old computer and the download the files wherever you want them.

Dropbox is a simpler option but it'll require the files all going to their server where a local sftp server just sends stuff between your PCs.

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 10-01-2014 11:12 AM

Most people have probably already heard the next version of Windows won't be Windows 9, but Windows 10 instead. The developer preview will soon be available, but the actual finished version that will be distributed to customers won't be available until the Summer or Fall of 2015. I'm kind of wondering what sort of changes we could see in personal computer hardware by then.

Microsoft distributed some new patches for Windows yesterday, making "Patch Tuesday" live up to its name. Sometimes the patches will show up on different days.

Shellshock was a big computer security item last week. This week news is spreading about how the portable devices being carried by protesters in Hong Kong are being specifically targeted. A new virus for iOS, called Xsser, was discovered by researchers investigating similar malware targeting Android based devices.

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Steve Matz
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From: Billings, Montana, USA
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posted 10-01-2014 12:02 PM

Thanks Chris;I will try that option. I forgot how old this Laptop really is(Compaq Presario 1260) It still has the common phone jack and the Internet Service I'm using has a Dish w/Ethernet Cable;so I've got to go buy an Ethernet adaptor to go in between the Cable & LT. I thought this was going to be a simple transfer to a 16ghz Flashdrive I was trying to use on the Compaq but no dice.One of the techs I talked with at a Computer shop said that Flashdrives were developed when the NTFS File system came about and they more than not don't seem to work on the FAT System. I Downloaded a bunch of different drivers from HP that were supposed to be able to transfer Windows 98 to a FD
but none of them work right...

I don't suppose something as simple as using a USB Cable between the 2 Laptops would work either.If all these old Vintage Photos weren't valuable and many one of a kind; I would have Chucked this LT in the Garbage a long time ago. What s hassle....

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Rick Raskin
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posted 10-01-2014 04:23 PM

Steve: Take out the hard drive and have your computer shop buddy sell you a caddy that will mount it to your new machine's USB. Then transfer at will.

Since your machine (according to the specs) does not have an Ethernet port but only has a 56K modem you will find an FTP client to be excruciatingly slow if you could even get it to work at all.

IMHO: Mounting the HDD to the new machine is the best option.

quote: Bobby Henderson
install the hard disc from that old computer into to a USB connectable mounting kit, allowing it to be read as an attached "slave" drive.

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Steve Matz
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posted 10-02-2014 09:25 PM

Rick. I purchased an Ethernet Cross over cable and a adaptor for the standard type telephone jack on the Compaq. Looks like it will transfer the Files but not at any lightning rate. Beggars can'r be choosers;just glad I will be able to get them over to the other LT, than I can back them up on a Flash Drive....Thanks [beer]

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Frank Angel
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posted 10-03-2014 11:36 AM

quote: Marcel Birgelen
While I totally agree that the current update cycles for all those different software packages are getting out of hand, security updates are there for a reason and using a computer that's two years behind on updates on the Internet is just the epitome of ignorance.

What no one has been able to explain to me is, how is it that there is a path DIRECTLY into my OS from the outside by which any software author like MS or HP or Adobe can do a pop up and tell you it wants to install an update? Sure you can opt out and NOT click OK, BUT given the very nature of hacking, how do I know that "update" actually is from Microsoft or HP or whoever has software that you installed? Seems to me if there is that easy path directly into my computer, ANYONE with half a hacking skill could use that to mimic an update. A user would be much less likely to question one of those "upgrade" requests precisely because, as you said, general assumption is, you are a fool if you don't acquess to a request to update your OS or any other software ugrade that is being requested. Why do we never question where that request is coming from? Everyone is highly suspect of links in other places, but not from the little toolbar in the righthand corner of the screen asking us for DIRECT access to dump code to the OS. How come? We also sit watching passively that those numbers ticking up on the logoff screen telling us not to turn off the computer ARE until it's finished trusting that the code being installed is actually coming from Microsoft and not some skilled hacker. Seems a questionable assumption at best.

As for recording someone without their permission, simple...just do what every business does on every phone call, tell the valet driver, "This is being recorded for safey purposes." If he'd rather not be recorded, say fine and let the next eager valet park it and get the tip.

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Steve Matz
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posted 10-03-2014 12:05 PM

Frank;I get those Popups all the time to upgrade ADOBE ACROBAT and one for upgrading PDF Files(PDFlite) when I check on how much it uses for the update;it's like 30+ megs.Granted that's pretty trivial when you have a 300 ghz Harddrive. But I have no problem opening up PDF Files at present so what does deducting 30 megs from your HD do that's going to be an improvement.I look at it as hey 30 megs can DL a lot of Photos that I want to keep
and PDF Files open up as fast as I click the Mouse. If this was back in the old days of my Compaq Laptop which had a jokingly 4ghz HD than 30 megs would have been a substancial deduction....

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Frank Cox
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posted 10-03-2014 04:45 PM

quote: Frank Angel
What no one has been able to explain to me is, how is it that there is a path DIRECTLY into my OS from the outside by which any software author like MS or HP or Adobe can do a pop up and tell you it wants to install an update?

It's actually works the other way around. The software on your computer "phones home" periodically and asks the server at MS, HP or Adobe if there is an update available, then pops up the window if so.

quote: Frank Angel
how do I know that "update" actually is from Microsoft or HP or whoever has software that you installed?

If this is implemented properly (that's the IF), any downloaded updates will be signed by a private key owned by MS, HP or Adobe, and your computer will refuse to install any update that purports to be from one of those outfits without that key being present. The private key thing here works the same way as the KDM's that we all know and love with digital cinema.

Having said that, there have been a few instances where rogue private keys have made it into the wild from at least some of those companies, so it's obviously not a 100% solution either.

But that is how it works.

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Frank Angel
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posted 10-04-2014 02:23 AM

Thanks, Frank -- that's is interesteing, but I still think, no matter which what the conversation goes -- either the PC calling MS or MS initiating a connection to the PC, it still seems fraught with hacking possibilities, especially given that people are very wary of links in emails and on what could be bogus websites, but seem not only trusting but eager to accept and all offers of an update. My feeling is, if MS can offer a "key," so can a hacker. But hey, it's the world we live in, I guess. I suppose you have to trust SOMEbody....sort of.

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