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Justin Hamaker
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Terry
The reason smaller theatres dumped Gone Girl after two weeks was because the gross wasn't holding up, and Fox wanted to make room for Book of Life.

By your argument, studios would never release two PG movies close together (happened with Alexander last week and Book of Life this week). Studios would never release two PG-13 movies close together - how often do we actually get 2-3 PG-13 in one weekend.

Yes, there is some competition between studios to get screens in smaller locations. But I have never heard a hint that studios will limit their release to smaller theatres just because they might have two movies of the same rating on screen at the same time. It's an argument that just doesn't make sense.

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I think you're assuming a motive which has no basis in reality. For one thing, Gone Girl was not in direct competition with Annabelle - the two movies appealed to different audiences. It would be more likely if you were to use The Judge and Gone Girl as a comparison. But the logic falls apart when you consider the 270 additional screens were added the same weekend The Judge opened.

If you look at each weekend's box office charts, you will notice that it's fairly common for a movie to add additional theatres in the second weekend. When the numbers are small, its likely just the studios adding theatres that did not have a screen available in week one. In the days of film this was probably theatres with multiple prints dropping one or more and sending them to smaller theatres.

When the number of additional screens in the second weekend is relatively large, this is probably just a planned expansion by the studios. Or response to demand from theatres after a surprise hit.

BUT HOW CAN THAT BE with so few prints!? They CLEARLY can't supply prints that quick to an expanding exhibitor base in only one week!!!!

Oh wait.....

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Terry Lynn-Stevens
I am assuming they were allowed to play in for one week at the smaller bottom feeder locations.
More likely, they were moved over to a smaller auditorium for that second week and then the movie was dropped after that. R-rated scary/thrill movies are usually front-loaded, IOW everyone who wants to see them does so in the first week so the second week goes downhill fast.

quote: Justin Hamaker
Fox wanted to make room for Book of Life.
This is what I've heard called a "track." A studio will make a deal with a small theater to play Movie A for two weeks, then Movie B for two weeks, and sometimes Movie C for two weeks. In a few cases, they will allow a shorter play time for these situations -- once, we had Movie A booked, but then Movie B was opening on a Wednesday, so we were allowed to play Movie A for only 12 days. Movie B was the far bigger of the two releases so they wanted to get it out there.

quote: Terry Lynn-Stevens
smaller bottom feeder locations
Why don't you just say "smaller locations?" It would get the same point across without being insulting.

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Steve Matz
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I went to see "GONE GIRL" last Night(Sat)at (Carmike Shiloh 14) The theater they were showing it in was almost 1/2 the size of the one I watched "Walk through the Tombstones" 2 weeks ago and the Screen size was typical of Multiplex's with 12 or more Screens. Very disappointing after seeing the larger Screen before. Movie was completely different than I thought it was going to be after reading all the previous posts on it. I wish I would have made a left turn going down the aisle to "Annabelle" which was playing right across from this one.

Movie was OK but that ending almost makes me think Sequel(Gone Girl2) Maybe I wasn't paying full attention to the Movie as I was still Pissed Off at having to pay almost 14 dollars for a medium size Coke & Pop Corn even with their Reward's Card. That's BS; Next Time I'll ask my Woman to bring her Larger Purse and I'll stop at the Dollar Tree&Walmart for their Popcorn/Pop.
Theater Manager let me go up to their Projection Room(HUGE!) All CHRISTIE Equipment... Over a 1/2 HR of Previews before the Feature Started !

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Martin McCaffery
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Over a 1/2 HR of Previews before the Feature Started !
I hoped you complained. That's just unforgivable.

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Leo Enticknap
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One of the not so positive consequences of d-cinema is that making and distributing preshow crap is now cheaper and easier than it was in the days of 35mm (as a mainstream exhibition format). Anyone with a cheap camcorder and Adobe Creative Suite can make their own ads and trailers, and people are, with a vengeance. The cost of production and making prints used to act as a barrier to entry - not any more.

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Dennis Benjamin
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An article along the same lines as this thread:

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By
Erich Schwartzel and
Ben Fritz
Oct. 19, 2014 2:47 p.m. ET
5 COMMENTS

When Mickey Altman opened Viva Cinema in Houston in 2013, he thought the theater was a blockbuster investment. A 42,000-square-foot complex designed to appeal to the region’s growing Hispanic population, it featured eight auditoriums, a cantina serving Mexican dishes and a party room.

But it turned out he was lacking a key ingredient: Popular new releases.

AMC Entertainment Holdings Inc., the nation’s second-largest exhibitor, told major Hollywood studios that it wouldn’t play most new movies at its location about three miles away if they also played at Viva Cinema.

It was no contest: The studios agreed to AMC’s exclusivity requests on title after title, leaving Mr. Altman’s theater with scraps. Viva opened in May, when “Fast & Furious 6” was driving ticket sales. Viva’s marquee movie? Two-month old animated comedy “The Croods.” Time and again, Viva had to play out-of-date movies, such as “World War Z” in September, when it had been released in June.
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“They controlled our destiny,” Mr. Altman said of AMC.

Viva closed last November, after Mr. Altman said he lost millions of dollars in business on the theater.

From Atlanta to the San Diego suburb of La Jolla, more cinema operators say they are being blocked from booking hot new releases.

Called “clearance” in industry parlance, the exclusivity practice allows theater chains to tell Hollywood studios they will screen a movie in a particular market only if nearby competitors can’t.

‘They controlled our destiny.’
—Mickey Altman, independent-theater owner

Once widespread, clearance practices faded in the 1990s as the industry came to be dominated by a few large multiplex operators. But in the past few years, a small but growing class of independent movie-theater companies has risen, targeting specific groups such as Latinos and affluent customers. The owners of several of these cinemas claim their growth is being hampered because too often they can’t get the best movies.

“The use of clearances had been slowing in the movie industry,” said Jack Foley, a veteran studio distribution executive. “But recently they’re making a comeback.”

The practice affects millions of Americans by limiting where they can see popular movies. According to theater operators and distribution executives, the tactic has been used particularly aggressively by the nation’s three largest theater chains—AMC, Regal Entertainment Group and Cinemark Holdings . Collectively, they control about 42% of the nation’s movie screens.

The big chains argue that the trend merely follows the rules of the road for the exhibition industry and that in competitive areas, exclusivity requests are to be expected.

A spokesman for AMC said the company requests exclusivity on certain titles for only 28 of its 341 locations. In the majority of cases, he said, it is competing with locations owned by fellow titans Regal or Cinemark—not the smaller newcomers.

In a statement, Regal said exclusivity agreements allow studios to “cost-effectively distribute their movies [and] allow exhibitors to compete for film content.”

Cinemark didn’t respond to requests for comment.

The renewed use of these arrangements has generated lawsuits and even government scrutiny: Two theater executives said they recently spoke with the Justice Department’s Antitrust Division, which has been seeking information on the issue. The practice isn’t the subject of a formal DOJ investigation, according to people familiar with the matter.

Defenders of the practice point out that it is ultimately up to the studios whether to grant a theater chain’s request for exclusivity. Distribution executives—the people at studios who book movies into theaters—say they typically would prefer to play a new release on as many screens as possible. When clearance requests force them to choose between multiple theaters in a market, executives say they go with the location they believe will generate the highest ticket sales—regardless of its owner.

But independent operators maintain they are too often on the losing end of such battles.

Cobb Theatres, which operates 20 theaters including one near two AMC locations in Atlanta, sued AMC in January in U.S. District Court in Georgia, accusing the theater chain of violating antitrust law and using its “world-wide and national circuit power” to “deny their competitors... fair competitive access to films so as to drive them out of business.”

AMC declined to comment on pending litigation.

Cinépolis, a major Mexican cinema company with luxury locations breaking into the U.S. market, estimates it has walked away from one-third of the 200 sites it has scouted for theaters because of clearance concerns, said the chief executive of its U.S. operation, Adrian Mijares Elizondo.

Exclusivity agreements have traditionally been most common during booms in building or renovating theaters. To protect their investments, theater owners sometimes seek to limit nearby competition, usually within a radius of three miles or so.

In recent years, a number of independent exhibitors such as iPic Theaters, Reading International Inc.’s Angelika Film Center, and Landmark Theatres, owned by billionaires Mark Cuban and Todd Wagner, have been building new high-end locations that compete for moviegoers willing to pay sometimes more than $20 a ticket, plus extra for gourmet food and drinks delivered to their seats.

AMC, meanwhile, isn’t sitting still. Fueled by cash after being acquired by China’s Dalian Wanda Group Corp. in 2012 and a public stock offering last year, it is in the midst of a $600 million effort to upgrade 1,800 of its 5,000 auditoriums with leather recliners and other amenities.

Exclusivity, as AMC points out, doesn’t always involve a David vs. Goliath scenario. Regal, for example, is currently trying to “clear” a theater under construction by Cinemark in a coastal Los Angeles neighborhood, according to people familiar with the situation.

Independents are trying the tactic against each other, too. Landmark is currently engaged in one such battle against a soon-to-launch ArcLight Cinemas location in Bethesda, Md., according to people familiar with the matter.
Cinetopia’s Rudyard Coltman delayed his Overland Park, Kan., theater’s opening in May, because the big movie of the weekend wouldn’t have been available. ENLARGE
Cinetopia’s Rudyard Coltman delayed his Overland Park, Kan., theater’s opening in May, because the big movie of the weekend wouldn’t have been available. Catalin Abagiu for The Wall Street Journal

Still, theater operators like Rudyard Coltman often end up being the underdogs. Mr. Coltman delayed by a week the May opening of his Cinetopia 18 multiplex in Overland Park, Kan., after hearing from Time Warner Inc. ’s Warner Bros. that AMC had already requested exclusive rights in the neighborhood to “Godzilla,” the only major new release the weekend he’d planned to open.

While the studios haven’t kept every new release out of Cinetopia, they do alternate their biggest titles between it and AMC Town Center 20—a renovated multiplex about three miles away. Mr. Coltman said he has missed out on hits like “Guardians of the Galaxy,” keeping box-office revenues 30% to 50% lower than he had projected.

Hamid Hashemi, CEO of the iPic luxury chain, said he was in negotiations this July to build a new location in Dallas when AMC sent a letter to studios saying it would request exclusivity on certain titles if the theater was built.

That same day, Mr. Hashemi was told by studio distribution executives, Regal called to say it would seek films exclusively if he went through with plans to build a separate iPic theater in Houston. Mr. Hashemi added that such notifications make it harder to convince real-estate developers that leasing to him will be worthwhile.

Gerry Lopez, chief executive at AMC, said representatives from his company often talk with landlords eyeing potential development and will make it known if they think a site would be subject to clearance.

In a statement, Regal said exclusivity agreements allow studios to “provide consumers with the variety of movies that they enjoy,” adding it expects the practice to continue “for many years to come.”

Write to Erich Schwartzel at erich.schwartzel@wsj.com and Ben Fritz at ben.fritz@wsj.com

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In a statement, Regal said exclusivity agreements allow studios to “cost-effectively distribute their movies [and] allow exhibitors to compete for film content.”
I guess somewhere along the line, the Sherman Anti-Trust Act has been repealed. How is this not restraint of trade? How is going so far as to block theatre from actually being build due to this practice not considered restraint of trade? Where the eff is the Justice Department?

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In a statement, Regal said exclusivity agreements allow studios to “provide consumers with the variety of movies that they enjoy,” adding it expects the practice to continue “for many years to come.”
Not if the DOJ throws a major antitrust lawsuit against you, you arrogant SOB.

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DOJ got out of the monopoly business in the early 80's, for the most part. In 1983 there were 3 different chains in Montgomery, and in most of the other big Alabama cities. Then almost overnight, Carmike had everything in Montgomery, Cobb had Birmingham and I forget how the rest of it went, but single chains. There was lots of talk about a lawsuit, but it never happened.
As for AMC, since Carmike opened their new multiplex a few miles from AMC's location, Carmike has been outgrossing them pretty regularly. Maybe Carmike should demand clearances in Montgomery;>

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I don't see how it is ever to a studio's advantage to give "clearance" to one theatre to the detriment of another. Even if servicing the smaller screen takes patrons way from the big chain, that doesn't hurt the studio -- it's still getting revenue from those patrons no matter what theatre they spend their dollars.

Surely a chain is not going to forego playing a big picture in order to "punish" a studio for not giving them exclusive on that title. I certainly do understand the reason why the REGAL or AMC try to throw their weight around to crush the competition, but I don't see why the studios would go along with it, especially as it doesn't help them in any economic way and in fact, it more than likely can hurt them, especially when their ad campaigns tout, "Playing in a Theatre Near You" and "Opening on Such-and-such a Date;" but then they make a move that causes a certain number of the public not to be able to find it at a theatre near them nor on the date that it is supposed to open -- just one more reason to cause them to wait for it to come to Netflix. So instead of the studio getting it's $9 from a theatre ticket sale, they get $0.75 from the Netflix take.

Why would a studio, after spending millions on promotion, kowtow to a big chain's demand that prevents at least some of the public from finding that title at their local theatre? It seems illogical...moronic even, ESPECIALLY given how the distribution models have moved completely away from tiered patterns and a pecking order hierarchy SPECIFICALLY because it makes economic sense to open pictures as quickly as possible and everywhere at once. Holding it back from screens at the behest of a monster chain is a throwback to cave man times; it is baffling why studios go along with it.

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The answer is most probably: motivational fees, services and arrangements... Alongside with "old habits die hard" and CxOs being afraid of being held accountable for potentially backfiring decisions.

AMC also does have some international "leverage", being part of the Wanda Group, which owns a considerable number of screens in China.

In my opinion, this is clearly abuse of a near monopolistic position. The only way to get rid off this nonsense is a lawsuit.

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