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Author Topic: IMAX Boasts 26% More James Bond ‘Skyfall’ Shawn M. Martin Expert Film Handler Posts: 175 From: Arlington, VA, USA Registered: Feb 2012 posted 11-08-2012 12:26 PM                    Men in Black III was 99% film. The Alexa was only used for some of that nighttime bike chase.  |  IP: Logged Shawn M. Martin Expert Film Handler Posts: 175 From: Arlington, VA, USA Registered: Feb 2012 posted 11-08-2012 06:20 PM                    Also, just for comparison's sake, here's a list of 2011-2013 films that I know of that are either totally or primarily shot on film: 2 Guns 30 Minutes or Less 50/50 360 A Better Life A Dangerous Method A Good Day to Die Hard A Separation A Single Shot A Thousand Words Abduction Alex Cross Alvin and the Chipmunks: Chipwrecked American Reunion Anna Karenina Arbitrage Argo Arthur Attack the Block August: Osage County Bad Teacher Barney's Version Battle Los Angeles Battleship Beastly Beasts of the Southern Wild Beautiful Creatures Being Flynn Belle du Seigneur Big Miracle Big Mommas House 3 Blitz Bridesmaids Bullet to the Head Captain Phillips Carnage Casa de mi Padre Cloud Atlas Colombiana Conan the Barbarian Contraband Coriolanus Cowboys & Aliens Crazy Stupid Love Dark Shadows Deadfall Diary of a Wimpy Kid 2 Diary of a Wimpy Kid 3 Django Unchained Don't Be Afraid of the Dark Don Jon's Addiction Dream House Dylan Dog: Dead of Night Emperor Everything Must Go Fast Five Fast Six Footloose Footnote For Ellen For Greater Glory Fun Size G.I. Joe Retaliation Great Expectations Green Lantern Hall Pass Hanna Harry Potter & the Deathly Hallows Part 2 Headhunters Hick Hop House at the End of the Street Hysteria I Am Number Four I Don't Know How She Does It Inside Llewyn Davis In the Land of Blood and Honey J. Edgar Jack Reacher Jane Eyre Jayne Mansfield's Car John Carter Johnny English Reborn Joyful Noise Judy Moody and the Not Bummer Summer Killer Elite Killing Them Softly Larry Crowne Les Miserables Limitless Lincoln Lola Versus Looper Madea's Big Happy Family Man of Steel Man on a Ledge Martha Marcy May Marlene Meek's Cutoff Men in Black III Midnight's Children Midnight in Paris Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol Moneyball Monte Carlo Moonrise Kingdom My Week with Marilyn Nightingale No Strings Attached Now Is Good Now You See Me One Day One for the Money Pain & Gain Parental Guidance Pariah Passion Paul People Like Us Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters Playing for Keeps Premium Rush Priest Promised Land Red 2 Red Dawn Red Riding Hood Restless Rise of the Planet of the Apes Safe Safe House Salmon Fishing in the Yemen Samsara Savages Saving Mr. Banks Scream 4 Season of the Witch Seven Days in Utopia Seven Psychopaths Shame Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows Silver Linings Playbook Snow White and the Huntsman Something Borrowed Soul Surfer Source Code Star Trek Into Darkness Stoker Stolen Straw Dogs Sucker Punch Super 8 Take Me Home Tonight Take Shelter Taken 2 The Adjustment Bureau The Apparition The Artist The Art of Getting By The Beaver The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel The Big Year The Bourne Legacy The Butler The Cabin in the Woods The Change-Up The Cold Light of Day The Company Men The Company You Keep The Conspirator The Dark Knight Rises The Debt The Deep Blue Sea The Descendants The Dilemma The Eagle The Expendables 2 The Green Hornet The Grey The Guard The Guilt Trip The Hangover Part 2 The Heat The Help The Hunger Games The Hunger Games: Catching Fire The Hunter The Ides of March The Impossible The Incredible Burt Wonderstone The Intouchables The Iron Lady The Lady The Lone Ranger The Lucky One The Master The Mechanic The Mortal Instruments: City of Bones The Odd Life of Timothy Green The Paperboy The Perks of Being a Wallflower The Place Beyond the Pines The Possession The Raven The Rite The Rum Diary The Secret Life of Walter Mitty The Sitter The Skin I Live In The Spectacular Now The Thing The Three Stooges The Tree of Life The Vow The Way Back The Wolf of Wall Street The Woman in Black The Words This Means War Thor Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy To Rome with Love Tower Heist Trespass Trouble with the Curve Twelve Years a Slave Twilight: Breaking Dawn Part 1 Twilight: Breaking Dawn Part 2 Two Mothers Unknown Upside Down W.E. Wanderlust War Horse Warrior Water for Elephants We Bought a Zoo We Need to Talk About Kevin What's Your Number What Maisie Knew Win Win Won't Back Down Wrath of the Titans Wuthering Heights X-Men First Class Your Highness  |  IP: Logged Tom Tomlinson Film Handler Posts: 21 From: Port Washington, NY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 11-09-2012 12:04 AM                     I saw it in Digital imax here in NYC and I thought I saw a title card come up before the trailers saying the following presentation wasn't DMR'ed which I remember Roger Deakens saying that. Maybe I misread it. Then the trailers went and the movie. The movie looked 2.39 to me and the Columbia logo at the beginning was cropping of the top of the word columbia. I stayed for the end credits and of course the imax QC title card came up. Confusing?  |  IP: Logged Scott Jentsch Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1061 From: New Berlin, WI, USA Registered: Apr 2003 posted 11-09-2012 09:03 AM                        Opening up the frame to show 26% more of the captured image doesn't do much for me when the average IMAX presentation is going to be showing a smaller picture than the super-sized auditoriums out there from Cinemark (XD), Marcus (UltraScreen), and the like. I did a quick check at two local UltraScreens and the only IMAX theater in the Milwaukee area, and even with the expanded aspect ratio of the IMAX presentation, its image size will only be 63% of the size of the image projected by the smaller of the UltraScreens in town. That runs counter to the hype being repeated by the original article, but that's what happens when you have a 50' wide IMAX screen competing with a 70' or 75' wide UltraScreen. On top of that, the price for the UltraScreen for an evening show (adult) is $11.00 while the IMAX show at the AMC is $14.50.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 11-09-2012 12:20 PM                     Another obvious question: why pay extra to see the movie in "IMAX Digital" when the projected image is 2K resolution while other regular d-cinema theaters might be showing it in sharper 4K resolution and with no extra surcharge? I can see some value with IMAX Digital when it comes to showing digital 3D movies in a brighter fashion. But I don't see the point to it at all when it comes to 2D movies. It's HDTV resolution blown up to a sort of big screen. The IMAX branded sound systems don't set any high water marks for quality, certainly not like the sound quality I heard at the long dead GCC Northpark Mall 1-2 theater in Dallas. If IMAX Digital was presenting a better digital image and digital audio than any other standard or premium commercial theater I could see the point to the surcharge for their flavor of digital. But they're not delivering that.  |  IP: Logged Connor Wilson Expert Film Handler Posts: 190 From: Sterling, VA, USA Registered: Jan 2011 posted 11-10-2012 05:58 PM                     I just came back from the 3:20 showing of Skyfall at the recently-opened BTX auditorium in the Bow Tie Reston Town Center 11. The tickets were $2 cheaper than the 3:30 showing at the digital IMAX in the AMC Tyson's Corner 16. This auditorium is out-fitted with a Christie 4K projector on a pretty darn huge 2.35:1 screen. That already looks better than IMAX's 2K projectors (which ironically are made in part by Christie). Unlike AMC's ETX or IMAX, the scope image fit onto the entire screen, instead of having unmasked scope image on a flat (1.78-1.90:1) screen. The bad news is, if the auditorium ever plays a flat film, which is very unlikely, there won't be any masking to play that flat film properly. The sound in the auditorium was pretty cool, obviously louder than most theaters, but loud in a good way. They played a Dolby trailer before the film, and that just KICKED ASS! There was only one example of "bad loud" in the entire movie. The opening sequence gave me bad memories of the overly-bombastic and somewhat compressed mix made for The Dark Knight Rises, and Adele's "Skyfall" didn't get much of an upgrade from its dynamically deficient counterpart in the form of a single from iTunes. So it's either the mix of the film, or the auditorium still has some EQ-ing to do. So if you want to see Skyfall in IMAX but not sure about how much you're going to get for your money, look someplace else, someplace GOOD.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 11-10-2012 11:34 PM                        My main problem with all of these "big" screen EXTREME theaters (IMAX falls into this category) is that they seem to be desperately trying to duplicate the outdoor concert experience when it comes to the sound. Dialog is especially harsh with increased treble to give it that same extra "clarity" that the very first CDs on the market did. I'm almost convinced that there are is no volume control in a digital IMAX installation, at least not for stuff that is in "proper digital IMAX". I still haven't heard RPX yet because I just don't want to spend extra for it. I'll tag along if someone else buys. Also, I heard IMAX is supposed to be going 4K in the near future. We'll see how long it takes them to make the changes.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-10-2012 11:38 PM                     Making a system that is loud is cheap and any yahoo can do the B-chain (by ear even). Making a system that is loud and doesn't hurt people's ears is more expensive and requires actual tools (such as the D2) and a tech who actually understands the art of tuning a room (not a robot dialing to the meter). I'm in agreement with Joe. I've never heard an IMAX that I thought sounded good. They have all sounded bad.  |  IP: Logged Kurt Zupin Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 989 From: Maricopa, Arizona Registered: Oct 2004 posted 11-10-2012 11:57 PM                     I'll be the first to admit that I can't pick up some of the sound issues others talk about, however I think our IMAX sounds good. It sounds as good if not better then our "regular" screens. The dialog sounds crisp and clear without any "affects" to it. The bass is thumping when needs be and not over bearing when it shouldn't be. Then again, I am no expert and my ears are not the greatest.  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 11-11-2012 01:04 PM                     Yep, I agree with the above posts, I have yet to hear an IMAX setup that sounds good. It is always harsh, ragged sounding and way too loud. Interesting point about IMAX not having a volume control (fader)...in the few booths I have entered I don't recall seeing a fader.... 3......2.......1.......  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 11-12-2012 08:59 AM                     Friday night I watched Skyfall on the IMAX Digital screen at the Warren Theaters complex in Moore, OK. I intended to get balcony seat tickets for me and my date in one of the two "Grand Auditoriums" but those shows were sold out. So we settled for a late show in the "IMAX" house instead. BTW, that sold out too (thank you Internet and advance online ticket sales). The sound quality was a little better than I expected. It wasn't harsh sounding, so it seemed like some attention was paid to the EQ. The volume was at a comfortable level too. The bass levels were ok, but could have used a little more thump. This auditorium was fairly big (I'm guessing 600-700 seats) so I suppose the sheer level of cubic airspace in the room could have been a challenge in attaining the chest thumping levels of sub bass I like. The two big upper rear corner speakers common to IMAX theaters do not do a good job of providing back wall surround coverage. IMHO, IMAX needs to make a deal with Dolby and adopt that new Atmos audio format otherwise it will be a source of IMAX vs. Dolby conflict in the future. Biggest problem: image resolution. While the projected image in this theater was acceptably bright and even, it was seriously wanting in terms of native resolution. 2K simply is not good enough for large screens (and this screen wasn't as big as a real IMAX screen made for 15/70 projectors). Closeups of actors faces appeared out of focus due to the lack of resolution. Anything dealing with graphics, like computer screen images or the end titles, appeared kind of blurry. Aliasing was also an issue. One really noticeable example was on the grill of the classic Aston Martin car as it drove on a Scottish road late in the movie. If IMAX is going to put twin 4K DLP projectors in these theaters (and presumably show 4K native material) it would be a big help. The movie itself was pretty damn good. I'll get a copy when it comes out on Blu-ray.  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 11-12-2012 02:48 PM                     quote: Bobby Henderson The bass levels were ok, but could have used a little more thump. One seat can make a huge difference with LFE. Maybe you shoulda traded seats with your date.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-12-2012 09:45 PM                        You people must live near some really crappy Imax houses. I have thought for years that sound quality was one of the format's biggest achievements.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 11-13-2012 11:17 AM                     I've visited a decent number of IMAX screens over the years. Most IMAX sound systems are designed more for sheer bombast rather than achieving finely tuned high levels of sound quality. I'm with Joe on this, the audio character will sound more like that of a concert arena than a high quality movie theater. I've never liked the surround setup at IMAX theaters. It's usually just two big enclosures stuffed up in the rear corners of the room. Sometimes that's way above the head.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 11-13-2012 06:07 PM                        Yeah the only time I remember ever hearing surround sound in an IMAX auditorium is during the IMAX "powering up" logo at the beginning when they enhance everything for crystal clarity. And even then, the surrounds are very faint sounding. Regular auditoriums do a better job at surround coverage.  |  IP: Logged

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