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Joe Redifer
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quote: Bobby Henderson
It's still possible to install Adobe Encore, if your computer's OS will support it. But you have to install the Premiere Pro CS6 "family" and then uninstall it, but make sure to un-check Encore CS6 when uninstalling the old version of Premiere Pro.
With Encore (at least the Mac version) the thing is you want to install the CS6 version, update it to the very next update but not the latest update which seems to cause a crash. At least that's what I remember doing. Gotta be CS6 unless you love the hell outta MPEG2, which I do not. I don't let Encore do the encoding though because it's really bad at that. In fact, it's the worst. I use Apple's Compressor and fortunately Encore is smart enough to not transcode.

quote: Bobby Henderson
Encore is good enough for basic disc authoring. Something like Scenarist is needed for more elaborate things.
Yes, but Encore is more elaborate than you might think. The big limiting factor is the Blu-ray format itself. Encore builds the menus like DVD menus. Blu-rays can ONLY use pop-up menus. It's pretty lame the way they designed it. And then they use Java for everything. It actually makes the menu experience of Blu-rays slower and much less enjoyable than those on DVD. But for branching paths, basic video selection and menus with sound, Encore is the tits. Fortunately the replication plant can convert all that crap into the nonsense that Blu-ray uses (which really is a horribly designed format with expensive authoring apps SPECIFICALLY to keep consumers from matching studio efforts). I did throw a pop-up menu in there anyway though that displays as the video is playing (if called for by the pop up button).

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Bill Brandenstein
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Cross post! Bobby gave a much better explanation of getting Encore CS6. It's a pain, but it's do-able. And anyone who has a CC subscription can get to it... eventually.

As you were. Hope your project turns out OK, Joe.

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Bobby Henderson
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quote: Joe Redifer
With Encore (at least the Mac version) the thing is you want to install the CS6 version, update it to the very next update but not the latest update which seems to cause a crash. At least that's what I remember doing. Gotta be CS6 unless you love the hell outta MPEG2, which I do not.
MPEG-2 is just inefficient garbage. It's even going to be tossed into the garbage within the next few years for over the air broadcast. HEVC will be taking over that, but also at the consequence of forcing in a variable bit rate rather than the constant bit rate current broadcasts use. I do like the constant bit rate nature of current MPEG-2 off air broadcasts since they often look far better than anything coming from cable or satellite TV providers. Once over the air broadcasts are able to use variable bit rates they'll look no better than the low bit rate shit we see passed off as cable television.

quote: Joe Redifer
I don't let Encore do the encoding though because it's really bad at that. In fact, it's the worst. I use Apple's Compressor and fortunately Encore is smart enough to not transcode.
What do you think about the latest updates to Adobe's Media Encoder application? That has at least seen some worthwhile updates over the ignorance given to Encore. Nevertheless, Adobe really needs to get back on the stick with this application and bring it up to date. They kind of have a liability to do so, given the fact they're turning into a damned monopoly.

I'm hoping Adobe can get it together with a few different applications. I've been pestering them for years in their feature request forums about certain features they need to incorporate into Adobe Illustrator. Their no coding required web development app Muse shows a lot of promise, but they have to conquer a few issues. Lately I've been making suggestions about what they need to do with Audition. Have you tried creating surround sound mixes in Audition? It's a total pain in the ass. Just backwards. They have a well designed sound panner palette, but the fucking palette does nothing in relation to sound events on the time line. You end up having to manually manipulate vector paths representing a few different sound envelopes just to create a certain surround sound effect. Ugh!

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