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Martin Brooks
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quote: Bobby Henderson
The film-look is not rooted in blur or the lack thereof. It's not all about shooting at 24 frames per second either. I've seen plenty of video camera sourced movies shot at 24fps where the look of soap operas and the six o'clock news still managed to bake itself into the imagery. 24fps judder alone does not equal cinema.

I think the cinematic look is all about the kinds of color and contrast present in the film stocks.

I truly think it's a combination of all factors: lighting, film stock, color grading and frame rate. The reason why the video at 24fps still looked like a soap opera is most likely because there was no blur because the exposure per frame was probably at least 1/250th of a second. Lighting and film stocks certainly play a part as well, but I think it's primarily the lack of blur within frames. Somehow we've gotten very used to that and it sends a signal that it's film to our brains.

Some years ago Douglas Trumbull did a high frame rate demo at a SMPTE meeting and as the frame rate increased, it looked less and less like film in spite of the fact that all other conditions were the same. We've also seen how film "turns into video" when motion controls are turned on on a TV in spite of the fact that the source material is still color graded for a movie. It's uncanny and intellectually, it's hard (for me) to grasp, but it happens.

You see this all time in "making of" documentaries. You see action shot at video frame rates and it's simply not believable. You watch the same scene in the finished movie and there is a definite suspension of disbelief.

I hated the look of the Hobbit movies that were presented at high frame rates. It looked like a video of a stage play to me.

Even my technically unsophisticated ex-wife noticed this when she visited an ill friend whose TV must have had the motion controls turned on. She came back and said, "remember how we used to be able to tell whether a TV show was shot on film or video? We were watching movies on Isabel's TV, but it all looked like video." I was shocked that she perceived the difference.

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Carsten Kurz
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Martin McCaffery
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We'll find out how it worked soon:

Variety
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Ang Lee’s ‘Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk’ Premiering at New York Film Festival
Brent Lang
Senior Film and Media Reporter
@BrentALang
AUGUST 22, 2016 | 09:38AM PT
Ang Lee’s “Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk” will debut at this year’s New York Film Festival.

The film is expected to be a major Oscar contender given that Lee has scored two previous Academy Awards for “Brokeback Mountain” and “Life of Pi.” But it’s also drawing attention because of its various technological innovations. “Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk” is the first full-length narrative film shot in 4K and native 3D at an accelerated rate of 120 frames-per-second. The idea is that the image will be crisper and more life-like.

TriStar Pictures and Studio 8 backed the film in association with LStar Capital, Film4, Bona Film Group, and Fosun Media. The film is adapted by Ben Fountain’s novel of the same name. It follows an Iraq war hero (newcomer Joe Alwyn) who embarks on a victory tour that includes a halftime show at a Thanksgiving Day football game. The cast includes Kristen Stewart, Chris Tucker, Garrett Hedlund, Vin Diesel, and Steve Martin.

Lee has been a staple of the festival, showing the likes of “Life of Pi,” “The Ice Storm,” and “Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon” at previous gatherings. Other films that will screen this year include Mike Mills’s “20th Century Women” and James Gray’s “The Lost City of Z.”



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