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Topic: Ringling Circus To Close
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Frank Angel
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From: Brooklyn NY USA
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 01-27-2017 12:17 PM
Ah, the same infatuation that drew people to the Roman coliseum or today, to Extreme Cage Fighting, or even the Indy 500 and for that matter, boxing -- all have that element that seems to attract.
The bus-and-truck theatrical troupes tour the country bringing Broadway shows to the hinterland, and they are still a profitable working model, or so it would seem, but like everything else tastes change and it's a fickle public. Nothing is predictable. In fact, EVERYTHING changes -- who would have thought in 1950, that there would be a time when motion picture film was no longer the medium for movie...or the great single screen movie palaces would be gone, or PAN AM Airlines? But one good thing about all this, at least now we can say that digital didn't kill the circus.
Sure, the circus enthralled kids and we loved going, but that was because kids just love the spectacle and the animals...we were innocent and didn't need to think about all the ramifications of a circus show -- like the burden, and if you believe the people who have been opposed to the use of circus animals, the pain caused to an animal by taking it out of it natural habitat and caging it for the rest of its life. For adults, it becomes much more complicated than just that it's a fun thing to watch. I am sure the Roman coliseum shows were probably considered "fun" to watch too, until human sensibilities evolved to be more humane).
I do agree tho, besides whatever we can speculate about the ethics of the animal element, it is always the profit margin that has the major role in why a business fails.
And Mike, really? That's a specious argument that radio DJ makes. I bet that guy would think a lot differently about the "joys" of being fed regularly while in a cage if he were fed great meals every day and allowed to do his two hour radio show, i.e., perform, maybe get accolades and great ratings, but then be jailed in a comfortable room the rest of the day, day in and day out...forever. And he's a somewhat adaptable human. I am sure the elephants don't "think" being paraded around with people cheering or performing things totally unnatural to them and being given food is a compensation for being caged the rest of the day. An animal's nature is to HUNT or forage for their food, not to lay around waiting for it to be dumped into their cage.
Being caged is just as unnatural and debilitating for an animal as it is for a jailed human. That's why it's considered PUNISHMENT. For the human, it's warranted; for the animal it's not.
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Mike Blakesley
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From: Forsyth, Montana
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-27-2017 06:34 PM
quote: Frank Angel
And Mike, really? That's a specious argument that radio DJ makes. I bet that guy would think a lot differently about the "joys" of being fed regularly while in a cage if he were fed great meals every day and allowed to do his two hour radio show, i.e., perform, maybe get accolades and great ratings, but then be jailed in a comfortable room the rest of the day, day in and day out...forever. And he's a somewhat adaptable human. I am sure the elephants don't "think" being paraded around with people cheering or performing things totally unnatural to them and being given food is a compensation for being caged the rest of the day. An animal's nature is to HUNT or forage for their food, not to lay around waiting for it to be dumped into their cage.
Being caged is just as unnatural and debilitating for an animal as it is for a jailed human. That's why it's considered PUNISHMENT. For the human, it's warranted; for the animal it's not.
Take note that the guy I was quoting was Larry the Cable Guy, who is a COMEDIAN, therefore the whole thing was a JOKE. I guess I should have surrounded it with smileys.
However, you can't equate humans with animals in this case. An animal that grows up in captivity doesn't know any different and is probably quite contented with his life, you never know. Do animals really crave different scenery all the time? In my experience, an animal's main job every day, day in and day out, is to find food, eat, build whatever it lives in, and make new baby animals. I don't think they're walking around saying "Man this part of the forest is boring, let's run all day and go somewhere else."
But like I said, the circus animals are or will be in the care of some retirement farm, so I'm sure they'll be happy.
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