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Topic: Are you gonna get an Apple HomePod?
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Marcel Birgelen
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From: Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands
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posted 02-24-2018 01:28 AM
The Google Home devices currently operate in much the same way, although they don't use separate microphones for it. I think the separate microphones in itself also aren't necessary, since you could still cheat in the software.
Google Home devices are constantly listening for their activation phrase "Ok Google / Hey Google". Once they recognized the trigger, they will light up and respond. Everything you say from this point on, will be transmitted to Google.
Like I mentioned in a previous post, the traffic pattern of those devices seems to match Google's claims, at least for now. The Amazon devices don't seem to be playing this nice.
What's even more evil though is one of those new Samsung "intelligent" fridges. I don't know what they're communicating, but they manage to push up to a gigabyte per day of traffic... They do have cameras built-in, who try to scan EAN/IAN codes and expiry dates on the stuff you put in there. I suppose they decided to put this "intelligence" in the "cloud", so it's constantly sending the contents of your fridge to Samsung...
quote: Mike Blakesley I guess if I was a drug dealer I'd think twice about having an Echo in my house though.
It all seems to be fine for now, as long as the democratic systems around you are still mostly working. But we all know that stuff can go haywire, we only need to look at the recent past or just look around in the world.
Once shit starts turning haywire, you might find yourself on the "wrong" side of things faster than you think, simply based on political views, race, religion, sexual orientation or whatnot. In those cases, those years of stored archive of your inner live, like your buying habits, your Internet searches and even your voice recordings might quickly be turned into a tool against you. And like Frank already anecdotally mentioned, they'll usually find what they're looking for, as long as they look deep enough and have sufficient stuff to look through.
There is this much bespoke Second Amendment, which is supposed to keep the government honest. I think there's a much more important amendment to do just that, the 4th, because in this hyper-connected world, access to information will be the weapons of the future.
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Frank Cox
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From: Melville Saskatchewan Canada
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted 03-07-2018 03:01 PM
Amazon admits Alexa is creepily laughing at people
quote: Over the past few days, users with Alexa-enabled devices have reported hearing strange, unprompted laughter. Amazon responded to the creepiness in a statement to The Verge, saying, “We’re aware of this and working to fix it.”
As noted in media reports and a trending Twitter moment, Alexa laughs without being prompted to wake. People on Twitter and Reddit reported that they thought it was an actual person laughing near them, which can be scary when you’re home alone. Many responded to the cackling sounds by unplugging their Alexa-enabled devices.
Twitter user @CaptHandlebar was one of the first to report experiencing this back on February 22nd:
So Alexa decided to laugh randomly while I was in the kitchen. Freaked @SnootyJuicer and I out. I thought a kid was laughing behind me. pic.twitter.com/6dblzkiQHp — CaptHandlebar (@CaptHandlebar) February 23, 2018
Since then, different people have noted hearing the laughter. It’s sometimes unprompted or appears as a bizarre response to requests to turn off the lights.
Lying in bed about to fall asleep when Alexa on my Amazon Echo Dot lets out a very loud and creepy laugh... there’s a good chance I get murdered tonight. — Gavin Hightower (@GavinHightower) February 26, 2018
Many have related the laughter back to a moment in 2001: A Space Odyssey when HAL 9000 turns evil and says, “I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that.” Maybe it’s a sign that having smart devices in our homes is another step toward a creepy, dystopian future where robot overlords rule. When does that Terminator sequel come out again?
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Carsten Kurz
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From: Cologne, NRW, Germany
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posted 03-15-2018 07:35 PM
I think there are some aspects of certain food that make you want to see (and maybe touch) it before you buy. I much prefer to find and buy technical items on the net so that I can look up technical parameters, sizes, colors, etc.. But e.g. fresh food can not be selected by such parameters. It's a sensual thing, and you want to see it before you buy. Of course, non-fresh food, brand stuff, etc., is usually safe going. No trouble to order e.g. a bottle of Heinz - you know what you get. That's why brands will become even more important with online food ordering.
- Carsten
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Frank Cox
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posted 05-24-2018 07:51 PM
[URL=https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/woman-says-her-amazon-devicefujitsu ar-dl10-recorded-private-conversation-sent-it-out-to-random-contact/755507974]Woman says her Amazon device recorded private conversation, sent it out to random contact[/URL]
quote: A Portland family contacted Amazon to investigate after they say a private conversation in their home was recorded by Amazon's Alexa -- the voice-controlled smart speaker -- and that the recorded audio was sent to the phone of a random person in Seattle, who was in the family’s contact list.
"My husband and I would joke and say I'd bet these devices are listening to what we're saying," said Danielle, who did not want us to use her last name.
Every room in her family home was wired with the Amazon devices to control her home's heat, lights and security system.
But Danielle said two weeks ago their love for Alexa changed with an alarming phone call. "The person on the other line said, 'unplug your Alexa devices right now,'" she said. "'You're being hacked.'"
That person was one of her husband's employees, calling from Seattle.
"We unplugged all of them and he proceeded to tell us that he had received audio files of recordings from inside our house," she said. "At first, my husband was, like, 'no you didn't!' And the (recipient of the message) said 'You sat there talking about hardwood floors.' And we said, 'oh gosh, you really did hear us.'"
Danielle listened to the conversation when it was sent back to her, and she couldn't believe someone 176 miles away heard it too.
"I felt invaded," she said. "A total privacy invasion. Immediately I said, 'I'm never plugging that device in again, because I can't trust it.'"
Danielle says she unplugged all the devices, and she repeatedly called Amazon. She says an Alexa engineer investigated.
"They said 'our engineers went through your logs, and they saw exactly what you told us, they saw exactly what you said happened, and we're sorry.' He apologized like 15 times in a matter of 30 minutes and he said we really appreciate you bringing this to our attention, this is something we need to fix!"
But Danielle says the engineer did not provide specifics about why it happened, or if it's a widespread issue.
"He told us that the device just guessed what we were saying," she said. Danielle said the device did not audibly advise her it was preparing to send the recording, something it’s programmed to do.
When KIRO 7 asked Amazon questions, they sent this response:
“Amazon takes privacy very seriously. We investigated what happened and determined this was an extremely rare occurrence. We are taking steps to avoid this from happening in the future."
Amazon offered to “de-provision” Danielle’s Alexa communications so she could keep using its Smart Home Features. But Danielle is hoping Amazon gives her a refund for her devices, which she said their representatives have been unwilling to do. She says she’s curious to find out if anyone else has experienced the same issue.
"A husband and wife in the privacy of their home have conversations that they're not expecting to be sent to someone (in) their address book," she said.
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