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Topic: Peter Rabbit filmmakers and studio apologize
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Marcel Birgelen
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From: Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted 02-13-2018 05:30 PM
I don't know what the major malfunction with people is these days, but I suppose many of them are taking themselves far too serious.
Whatever you do or say will trigger some rights group somewhere, trying to expose you for the ignorant monster you seemingly are.
If we continue on this path, we will eventually degrade everything to it's lowest common denominator. For TV that already happened long ago, but let's not try to do the same with movies, books and other free forms of art or expression.
People that cannot distinguish caricature from discrimination really suffer from a deficit in intelligence, attention or both. (I'm probably already discriminating.)
Meanwhile, discrimination is an actual problem and while we continue to focus on hogwash like this, it tends to get lost in translation. It's easier to bitch around about trivialities than to face the harsh real world, obviously.
It reminds me of a local story. The Netherlands features a pretty successful theme park called "De Efteling", it's actually even older than Disneyland and it features some attractions that feature some "dark skinned" people as a form of caricature. It doesn't only feature "colored" people as a caricature, but also a whole bunch of other cultures and skin colors as a caricature of themselves. Every now and then, some semi-outrage breaks out, because some foreign journalist cries wolf about the "blatant discrimination" displayed in those attractions. It even sparked some Facebook groups demanding the theme park to immediately remove all forms of "discrimination". Up until now the theme park has neither apologized nor done anything to change anything on those rides. They also invited one of those Facebook groups for an open talk to explain their point of view and how caricature differs from discrimination, but none has ever since accepted the invitation.
In the end, the whole episode served more as a positive marketing instrument for said theme park. Sony should really have shown more balls here (yes, please not literally or we've got a new scandal on or hands). Don't apologize where no apology is needed.
quote: Mike Blakesley
That quote above has my name on it, for some reason, but is actually from a post by Bobby Henderson.
If you don't specify the originator of the quote with quote=, the BB software looks for the first occurrence of the string inside the quote tags and attributes the quote to him, her or it.
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Bobby Henderson
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From: Lawton, OK, USA
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posted 02-13-2018 07:49 PM
quote: Carsten Kurz
Maybe this goes both ways. I think that earlier in time there was the same potential for that kind of uproar - but as fewer people were able to express it over social media, only few people ever took notice of both the 'insult' as well as the complaint. Because studio representatives know about the irrepressible dynamics of social media, they prefer to keep a low profile. Same goes for mentioning it here on this forum. Had we ever had the opportunity to upset ourselves about this if Frank had not brought this up here? There is no problem with political correctness. There is a problem with social media and greed.
The problem lately is there are people from every single socio-economic background who believe they are victims and being oppressed. Race, religion and political affiliation do not matter. Representatives from all groups and income classes are having an angry pity party.
This is another reason why things like 24 hour cable news channels are anger pornography. These "news" outlets pick their side and patronize their viewer base, pointing at all the groups of bad people and how they have wronged you.
There are American citizens who do have legitimate complaints over being wronged by elements of our society's structural systems. I personally would be terrified if I was falsely accused of a crime. I don't have tons of money to spend on really good quality legal defense. And the notion of the accused being "presumed innocent" is a nice platitude, but it's frankly a load of crap in real life. Civil court cases can really bad for "little people" and small businesses as well; justice often goes to the side with the biggest monetary "war chest."
quote: Leo Enticknap
Ironically, "educational" movies such as Boys Beware (BTW, note the signpost to the nuclear fallout shelter at 0'50") and The Child Molester were made two generations ago: schoolkids who were shown them at the time laughed at them and made macabre jokes about them (not to mention gory driver's ed and anti-smoking 16mm classroom films). Today, they're probably more scared of this sort of thing than when the authorities were trying to make them scared.
It was still a different time back then. The news was on TV only very limited amounts of time, and when it aired the image being broadcast wasn't spammed to hell with Chryon text crawls across the screen. We didn't have the Internet back then, so there wasn't access to outlets of fake news and online propaganda, not to mention social media. We were more likely to get outdoors and do things rather than keep our faces glued to some electronic screen.
quote: Mike Blakesley
Oh it's already happening, to an extent. The Looney Tunes box sets issued a few years ago came with a warning saying that they were "meant for the adult collector and may not be suitable for children." And at least one of the sets had a forced-view warning on each disk starring that racist, Whoopi Goldberg, apologizing for how horrible those old cartoons are but "they are part of history and that is why we present them here" or something like that.
Some of those cartoons back then would definitely ignite a shit storm if they were made from scratch today with all the same content intact. I can recall Tom and Jerry cartoons where a bomb would blow up in Tom's face. The explosion would transform his cat face into a black "pickaninny" with hair in braided twists. That goes along with the "mammy" character chasing him around, with dice falling out of her robe. Someone would have to be pretty damned thick in the head not to see the overt racism in that imagery.
Do I think these old cartoons should be censored? No. I'll even go so far as to say Disney ought to release Song of the South on Blu-ray as an example of where our culture was back then -warts and all. The bigger problem I have is that a bunch of Americans refuse to acknowledge this stuff is pretty damned cringe-worthy.
This past weekend I was surfing classic movies and came across In Like Flint. I had seen the movie pop up on cable TV from time to time a long time ago. I don't think I had ever watched it all the way through in one sitting. So I watched it (in pretty decent HD quality; letter-boxed CinemaScope image). The movie is a laugh riot for just how silly, over the top and culturally outdated it is. It's really a hoot to watch in context of the "time's up" and "me too" movements dominating current headlines. Austin Powers seems almost like a serious-minded re-make in retrospect.
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Frank Cox
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From: Melville Saskatchewan Canada
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted 02-18-2018 11:38 PM
That's just crazy talk.
9-Year-Old Boy Saves Little Sister With CPR
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A 9-year-old boy who saved his baby sister's life after she fell into a swimming pool said he learned CPR from watching television.
Tristin Saghin was visiting his grandmother in Mesa, Arizona, with his family when his 2-year-old sister was found floating in the backyard pool.
"My grandma came in to look for her toothpaste and said, 'Where's the baby?' And my mom went running outside and there she was floating," Tristin told ABC News affiliate ABC15.
While his mother and grandmother called for help, Tristin performed chest compressions and mouth-to-mouth resuscitation on his sister, who was pulled from the pool unconscious and not breathing.
"I just went running outside again, and I did CPR on her," Tristin told ABC15. "I knew what I was doing."
Tristin said that minutes later, his sister started breathing. She is currently recovering in the hospital and, thanks to Tristin, is expected to be fine.
"I couldn't imagine what was going through his mind," said Mesa Fire Department spokesman Capt. Forrest Smith. "Here he is, in a situation where most of us, if we had a family member in that position, as parents we tend to really panic and be concerned. I tell you, we really give kudos out to him."
The near-tragedy was the area's third drowning call in two days. A 3-year-old girl drowned Saturday in a family swimming pool in Mesa, and hours later, a 7-year-old girl drowned in an above-ground pool in South Phoenix. So far this year, Maricopa County has seen 28 drowning calls, 14 of which have been fatal.
CPR Saves Lives
Learning CPR has traditionally been an exhaustive half-day ordeal. But new research suggests a short 60-second training video might be just as effective.
For Tristin, imitating what he had seen on TV was enough. The boy, who is being hailed as a hero, said he would do anything for his sister.
"She's really beautiful and I love her really much," he said.
Boy saves drowning brother's life -- with help from The Rock's 'San Andreas'
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It had been just a week since the 10-year-old Michigan boy last watched his favourite movie, "San Andreas," an action drama that stars Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson rescuing his family from two hours of tragedy — an earthquake, a tsunami and, most relevant to Jacob, a near-drowning.
Johnson’s character pulls his unconscious daughter from floodwaters and gives her CPR, first in a collapsing building, then in a boat. Finally, she spits up water.
So as Jacob pulled his 2-year-old brother Dylan from the pool and laid him on the deck, his mind channeled The Rock.
"The movie just popped up in my head and I started thinking about that scene," Jacob, of Roseville, Michigan, told The Washington Post. "And that’s when I started doing the compressions."
For half a minute, Jacob said he pushed and pushed until Dylan’s "heart started pumping." And then, just like The Rock’s daughter, Jacob’s brother "vomited a little water."
Now, nearly a month later, Dylan has fully recovered and Jacob is being hailed a hero — by his family, local law enforcement and The Rock himself.
"You’re a real life hero," The Rock wrote in one of four tweets about Jacob’s actions. "We’re all proud of you!"
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Leo Enticknap
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From: Loma Linda, CA
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posted 02-20-2018 08:44 AM
quote: Randy Stankey
What if some kid who watches that movie learns that food allergies can make people sick?
What if that kid figures out what an Epi-Pen is and he helps some other person with food allergies use an Epi-Pen and saves their life?
We took our two-year old to see it over the long weekend, and formed exactly the same impression of that scene. It sends the message that allergic reactions are a dangerous problem, but with the correct treatment given promptly, the sufferer will recover. If I were a child allergy activist/campaigner, the message I'd take away from it is that my advocacy had worked.
Given the school shootings in recent years, though, I can understand that Mr. McGregor shooting Peter's tail off did not make it from the book to the screen. That would have been a bit too Looney Tunes, under the circumstances. Furthermore, when we visited a Barnes and Noble for a coffee immediately after the movie, I couldn't resist a quick look in the kids' section, and discovered that the shooting has been censored out of the most recent reprinting of the book, too.
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